[Report] Conor Garland given permission to seek trade

[aGENT]

1 hour ago, CaptainQuin said:

Curious that Washington is interested ??

 

anyone know if they have anyone in their lineup that would make sense to trade garland for ??

 

1 hour ago, Diamonds said:

Nick Jensen is who I'd want. Good get stopgap option at RD while we wait for Willander to be ready. I'd love Iorio, but not a realistic return for Garland.

 

Yes Jensen easily. Was hoping he was going to make it to UFA last summer. Perfect stop gap Hughes partner.

[CaptainQuin]

2 minutes ago, aGENT said:

 

 

Yes Jensen easily. Was hoping he was going to make it to UFA last summer. Perfect stop gap Hughes partner.

What would it take to pry him out of Washington ?

 

garland + who ?

[Huggy Bear]

25 minutes ago, CaptainQuin said:

What would it take to pry him out of Washington ?

 

garland + who ?

 

They might be trying to offload Mantha, who appears to be scratched.

 

Myers ($1.2M retained) & Garland for Jensen ($4M) & Mantha ($5.7M)?
 

Each team gets an upgrade at a position of need, plus an expiring contract. We avoid retaining on Garland, and send even money for this season?

 

Jensen just turned 33, and is signed through 2026. Let him hold down 2RD until McWard (or Willander) are ready to challenge, then he moves back to 3RD?

 

Kuz - Petey - Mik

PDG - JTM - Boes

Dak - Suter - Mantha 

Hög - Blueger - Laff

 

Hughes - Hronek

Cole - Jensen 

Soucy - McWard

 

 

Edited October 17, 2023 by Huggy Bear

[wai_lai416]

6 hours ago, Hogs and Podz said:

I don't think you and I'll be friends... Plus...  'expandable'... I think you're expandable... Full of hot air that is.

we dont need to be friends.. at this point podz is not trending well.. his preseason wasn't great either, he's looking more and more like a 3rd line hard working grinder that have some scoring ability and size.. and that's only if he makes it. if that a piece that can get you a proven top 4 D.. you probably take it and run.. 

[RWJC]

5 minutes ago, wai_lai416 said:

we dont need to be friends.. at this point podz is not trending well.. his preseason wasn't great either, he's looking more and more like a 3rd line hard working grinder that have some scoring ability and size.. and that's only if he makes it. if that a piece that can get you a proven top 4 D.. you probably take it and run.. 

 

Have you been keeping tabs on him in Abby so far? I suspect you’re opinion will remain the same, but I think likely still have to give Podz a bit more time before the org decides to moves on from him:

 

 

Canucks prospects: A perfect week, from Podkolzin on down

 

Vasily Podkolzin and Arshdeep Bains start strong in Abbotsford, Tom Willander nets his first NCAA goal and Hunter Brzustewicz shoots his way up the OHL's scoring charts

 

It wasn’t just the big club that had a perfect start to their season this past week.
 

The Abbotsford Canucks are also 2-0 after posting back-to-back wins in Laval on Friday and Saturday, while several prospects playing overseas and elsewhere also made headlines.
 

So let’s tally up the efforts of the Vancouver Canucks’ highest-profile prospects in what was a wildly successful week for the organization:

 

Vasily Podkolzin

 

Not really a prospect anymore? Doesn’t matter.

As long as Vasily Podkolzin is in Abbotsford, he’ll be covered on these pages.

 

Podkolzin, however, may not last long in the AHL if he keeps playing like this.

The 22-year-old scored two goals and was given first star honours for the baby Canucks on Friday in their season-opening 7-4 win against the Rocket.

 

The new father looked reborn, playing with a purpose that was sorely missed from his substandard pre-season.

 

Podkolzin scored his first on the power play, finding some soft ice in the bumper spot and rifling a pretty pass by Arshdeep Bains post-and-in.

There was no smile from the gregarious Moscow product. Barely a celebration either.

 

He means business.

 

 

 

Podkolzin’s second goal was a testament to the type of hockey the organization wants to see out of him.

The 10th overall pick in 2019, skating on the first line with captain Tristen Nielsen and veteran Sheldon Dries at centre, smartly got his stick on a neutral zone pass late in the second period and forced a turnover.
 

Podkolzin then turned on the jets, went hard to the net and Nielsen found him in the slot for a quick shot and a goal to extend the lead to 5-2.

 

 

 

This is the “north-south” style that Rick Tocchet and Co. talked about before sending Podkolzin down earlier this month.

 

“This (AHL) is the best way to get his reads up to NHL standard,” Tocchet said a couple weeks ago. “He has some attributes to be a (roster) puzzle guy, a north-south guy, and he can work on his agility with straight-ahead power. But his work ethic is outstanding.”

 

Podkolzin didn’t register a point in Saturday’s 4-3 with at Laval, but did go a plus-1 and had a team-high five shots on goal.

 

Podkolzin, in the final year of his entry-level contract, could be among the first call-ups from Abbotsford if he keeps playing like this.

 

https://theprovince.com/sports/hockey/nhl/vancouver-canucks/canucks-prospects-a-perfect-week-from-top-to-bottom

[CaptainQuin]

58 minutes ago, Huggy Bear said:

 

They might be trying to offload Mantha, who appears to be scratched.

 

Myers ($1.2M retained) & Garland for Jensen ($4M) & Mantha ($5.7M)?
 

Each team gets an upgrade at a position of need, plus an expiring contract. We avoid retaining on Garland, and send even money for this season?

 

Jensen just turned 33, and is signed through 2026. Let him hold down 2RD until McWard (or Willander) are ready to challenge, then he moves back to 3RD?

 

Kuz - Petey - Mik

PDG - JTM - Boes

Dak - Suter - Mantha 

Hög - Blueger - Laff

 

Hughes - Hronek

Cole - Jensen 

Soucy - McWard

 

 

That looks pretty solid to me !

[Huggy Bear]

30 minutes ago, CaptainQuin said:

That looks pretty solid to me !

Mantha has been struggling with confidence and, while he’s a big body, he’s a skill player.  So having him on the bottom six may not add a better stylistic fit vs. Garland. He’d be a project getting a change of scenery

 

https://www.dailyfaceoff.com/news/washington-capitals-make-anthony-mantha-healthy-scratch-for-mondays-game

 

 

SCOUTING REPORT

The two-time 50-goal scorer in junior hockey has not come near that level in the NHL despite having all the tools for success: he is big and fast, has an excellent shot and displays supreme hand/eye coordination. Inconsistency and injuries have held him back, but he also needs to improve his play away from the puck in order to make the most of his offensive talents.

Long Range Potential:Big, talented but inconsistent scoring winger.

 

 

Sounds like he’d be an ideal net front presence for the second PP unit though. Big with great hand-eye….

[Smashian Kassian]

Garland for Roslovic (with some retention), get off the remaining years & open up $$$ to sign Bear.

[RWJC]

1 hour ago, Huggy Bear said:

Mantha has been struggling with confidence and, while he’s a big body, he’s a skill player.  So having him on the bottom six may not add a better stylistic fit vs. Garland. He’d be a project getting a change of scenery

 

https://www.dailyfaceoff.com/news/washington-capitals-make-anthony-mantha-healthy-scratch-for-mondays-game

 

 

SCOUTING REPORT

The two-time 50-goal scorer in junior hockey has not come near that level in the NHL despite having all the tools for success: he is big and fast, has an excellent shot and displays supreme hand/eye coordination. Inconsistency and injuries have held him back, but he also needs to improve his play away from the puck in order to make the most of his offensive talents.

Long Range Potential:Big, talented but inconsistent scoring winger.

 

 

Sounds like he’d be an ideal net front presence for the second PP unit though. Big with great hand-eye….

 

He’s also 5.7 mill, but expiring this year. I’d consider it. Not a big Mantha fan anymore though, and if he’s inconsistent or even to a degree disinterested or lazy I would pass on him. To me he clocked out when he signed his fat contract a few years ago. Maybe even some lingering long term injury issues present?

Regardless, no more floaters. At very least Garland has heart and gives a solid effort. Can’t risk messing around with the team identity that Tocchet is getting cooperation on/with by bringing in someone who is notorious for ghosting on many occasion. 
 

 

Anthony Mantha A Healthy Scratch For Washington

 

October 16th, 2023 at 7:33pm CST • By Josh Cybulski

 

The Washington Capitals announced tonight that they’ve made former 25-goal scorer Anthony Mantha a healthy scratch for their game against the Calgary Flames. The forward has struggled with the Capitals since coming over from the Detroit Red Wings in an ill-fated 2021 trade for Jakub Vrana and Richard Panik.

 

Less than a decade ago, the 29-year-old looked like he would blossom into a perennial 30-goal threat as he posted 25 goals in 67 games during the 2018-19 season. He continued his torrid pace in 2019-20 posting 38 points in 43 games during an injury-marred campaign.

 

The following offseason the Red Wings signed Mantha to a four-year extension with a $5.7MM cap hit that began to look like a misfire almost immediately. Mantha returned from injury and was never able to get back to the level of play he enjoyed from 2017-2019 as he registered just 11 goals and 10 assists in 42 games before he was dealt to Washington at the NHL trade deadline.

 

After the move to D.C. Mantha posted slightly improved offensive numbers with 13 goals and 18 assists in his first 51 games as a member of the Capitals. However, last season his point totals fell off a cliff as he had just 11 goals and 27 points in 67 games.

 

Mantha’s struggles led to speculation that he could be bought out this past June, however, the Capitals elected to keep the forward for the final season of his contract and put him on the trade block to see if they could find him a change of scenery. Nothing materialized on the trade front, which isn’t shocking given how difficult it was to move salary this summer.

 

The healthy scratch of Mantha early in the season is interesting for several reasons. It shows that the Capitals’ new head coach Spencer Carbery isn’t afraid to sit veterans to ice the best lineup possible, but it also serves as a reminder that Mantha is unlikely to remain in Washington beyond this season. Teams usually like to spend ten games assessing what they have before they decide on a direction for the season but given what has transpired with him over the last year in Washington it appears the Capitals have already made up their mind on the direction to take with Mantha’s future.
 

https://www.prohockeyrumors.com/2023/10/anthony-mantha-a-healthy-scratch-for-washington.html#ref=home

Edited October 17, 2023 by RWJC

[RWJC]

Nashville Predators Trade Rumblings: Interested in Canucks’ Conor Garland?

 

Chad Minton

7 hours ago

 

Only a week into the 2023-24 NHL season and already the trade rumors are buzzing, and yes the Nashville Predators are being linked to one player who would be considered still in their prime and maybe just needs a change of scenery.

 

It is being reported by David Pagnottaof The Fourth Period that the Nashville Predators have inquired about Garland, who has been on the trade block for the Vancouver Canucks for a while now. Dating back to last season.

 

Garland is in his third season with the Canucks, who are a team that is looking to free up some lineup space and add a little salary cap. They currently have $0 in salary cap space per CapFriendly.

 

In the Canucks’ first two games, Garland has averaged a meager 9:47 of ice time, but does have a goal and has skated effectively showing he hasn’t let the trade rumors hold him down.

 

Where Would the Nashville Predators Fit Conor Garland?

 

I’m sure this makes many of you Predators fans cringe at the thought of another trade rumor piece surrounding this team, and the idea of taking away a lineup spot from the popular youth movement.

 

Nashville’s forward core is made up of an even balance of veterans and youth. Adding Garland to the mix would possibly push out a younger player depending on who would be part of a trade to Vancouver.
 

“I GIVE GARLAND A LOT OF CREDIT. HE HAS KNOWN THE TEAM HAS BEEN TRYING TO MOVE HIM FOR A YEAR AND A HALF – BASICALLY SINCE JIM RUTHERFORD TOOK OVER – AND HE’S BEEN A GOOD SOLDIER THROUGHOUT.” -DAVID PAGNOTTA OF THE FOURTH PERIOD 
 

Pagnotta’s reporting suggests that Dante Fabbro could be a trade piece for Nashville in a potential trade for Garland. Fabbro’s name coming up shouldn’t surprise anyone. I’d argue he’s at the top of Nashville’s trade block list and will remain there all the way up to the trade deadline in 2024.
 

Garland put up a 46-point campaign for Vancouver in 2022-23 while being the subject of trade rumors. He’s a solid top-six player who is on Vancouver’s top line right now, and if you throw him into the mix with Nashville it could push fringe players out like Kiefer Sherwood and Cole Smith out.

 

It’s also being reported that Vancouver will likely have to retain some of Garland’s $4.95M AAV, but how much is speculation. On the flip side, the Predators have cap space to play around with at roughly just over $7.8M, while Fabbro makes just $2.5M AAV.

 

A lot of numbers to crunch, but the question is obviously if Garland is worth shaking up the core of this roster yet again. A roster that has already gone through so much change since last trade deadline, and is still trying to find its way after three games.

 

Although Garland would be a boost to the offense and even provide more help to the power play, which is 1-for-14 through three games, this also comes with some baggage. Garland has two more years left, so you have to hope he provides you a noticeable boost to the lineup to take on two more years with him.
 

Might be a Good Idea to Flip Fabbro for Garland

 

Being just shy of 28-years-old, it is a positive that Garland is still in the middle of his prime and could blossom with a new team. He has never surpassed 52 points in season, but has always been a steady contributor for both the Coyotes and Canucks.

Garland can also go out and get you some clutch goals in critical moments, and the Predators have always been thin at the winger spot when it comes to that.

 

The negative ripple effect to this is of course, does that mean Evangelista or Tomasino get buried further down the depth chart to find space for Garland? You’re not trading for Garland for him to be in a bottom-six minimal role. Just not happening.

 

I’m honestly torn on how I feel about this. On one hand it’s probably time to move on from Fabbro, and flipping him for a veteran top-six forward who still has upside would be worth it for Fabbro.

 

Additionally, there’s no indication at all that Fabbro will be here past next offseason as he’ll be a RFA with arbitration eligibility.

 

If this trade were to happen, the Predators would have a rock solid top-six with some offensive playmakers, but their defensive corps would get a little thinner. With that said, it comes down to how much faith they have in their current defensive prospects like Jake Livingstone, Spencer Stastney and Jordan Gross.

 

The Predators could survive with moving on from Fabbro in favor of adding Garland to their forwards, and you could even say they’d be a better overall team in that swap. The risk is supplanting your youth, shaking up more chemistry and potentially carrying a failed project for another two years on the books if it doesn’t work out.
 

https://predlines.com/2023/10/16/nashville-predators-rumors-garland/

[Elias Pettersson]

 

[Huggy Bear]

58 minutes ago, RWJC said:

 

He’s also 5.7 mill, but expiring this year. I’d consider it. Not a big Mantha fan anymore though, and if he’s inconsistent or even to a degree disinterested or lazy I would pass on him. To me he clocked out when he signed his fat contract a few years ago. Maybe even some lingering long term injury issues present?

Regardless, no more floaters. At very least Garland has heart and gives a solid effort. Can’t risk messing around with the team identity that Tocchet is getting cooperation on/with by bringing in someone who is notorious for ghosting on many occasion. 
 

 

Anthony Mantha A Healthy Scratch For Washington

 

October 16th, 2023 at 7:33pm CST • By Josh Cybulski

 

The Washington Capitals announced tonight that they’ve made former 25-goal scorer Anthony Mantha a healthy scratch for their game against the Calgary Flames. The forward has struggled with the Capitals since coming over from the Detroit Red Wings in an ill-fated 2021 trade for Jakub Vrana and Richard Panik.

 

Less than a decade ago, the 29-year-old looked like he would blossom into a perennial 30-goal threat as he posted 25 goals in 67 games during the 2018-19 season. He continued his torrid pace in 2019-20 posting 38 points in 43 games during an injury-marred campaign.

 

The following offseason the Red Wings signed Mantha to a four-year extension with a $5.7MM cap hit that began to look like a misfire almost immediately. Mantha returned from injury and was never able to get back to the level of play he enjoyed from 2017-2019 as he registered just 11 goals and 10 assists in 42 games before he was dealt to Washington at the NHL trade deadline.

 

After the move to D.C. Mantha posted slightly improved offensive numbers with 13 goals and 18 assists in his first 51 games as a member of the Capitals. However, last season his point totals fell off a cliff as he had just 11 goals and 27 points in 67 games.

 

Mantha’s struggles led to speculation that he could be bought out this past June, however, the Capitals elected to keep the forward for the final season of his contract and put him on the trade block to see if they could find him a change of scenery. Nothing materialized on the trade front, which isn’t shocking given how difficult it was to move salary this summer.

 

The healthy scratch of Mantha early in the season is interesting for several reasons. It shows that the Capitals’ new head coach Spencer Carbery isn’t afraid to sit veterans to ice the best lineup possible, but it also serves as a reminder that Mantha is unlikely to remain in Washington beyond this season. Teams usually like to spend ten games assessing what they have before they decide on a direction for the season but given what has transpired with him over the last year in Washington it appears the Capitals have already made up their mind on the direction to take with Mantha’s future.
 

https://www.prohockeyrumors.com/2023/10/anthony-mantha-a-healthy-scratch-for-washington.html#ref=home

yep, I’m not proposing (or advocating) it…rather answering another poster’s question on what a trade could look like. Also posted a similar article with my own cautions on Mantha. 
 

You make a good point on no passengers. 

 

 

[Huggy Bear]

55 minutes ago, RWJC said:

Nashville Predators Trade Rumblings: Interested in Canucks’ Conor Garland?

 

Chad Minton

7 hours ago

 

Only a week into the 2023-24 NHL season and already the trade rumors are buzzing, and yes the Nashville Predators are being linked to one player who would be considered still in their prime and maybe just needs a change of scenery.

 

It is being reported by David Pagnottaof The Fourth Period that the Nashville Predators have inquired about Garland, who has been on the trade block for the Vancouver Canucks for a while now. Dating back to last season.

 

Garland is in his third season with the Canucks, who are a team that is looking to free up some lineup space and add a little salary cap. They currently have $0 in salary cap space per CapFriendly.

 

In the Canucks’ first two games, Garland has averaged a meager 9:47 of ice time, but does have a goal and has skated effectively showing he hasn’t let the trade rumors hold him down.

 

Where Would the Nashville Predators Fit Conor Garland?

 

I’m sure this makes many of you Predators fans cringe at the thought of another trade rumor piece surrounding this team, and the idea of taking away a lineup spot from the popular youth movement.

 

Nashville’s forward core is made up of an even balance of veterans and youth. Adding Garland to the mix would possibly push out a younger player depending on who would be part of a trade to Vancouver.
 

“I GIVE GARLAND A LOT OF CREDIT. HE HAS KNOWN THE TEAM HAS BEEN TRYING TO MOVE HIM FOR A YEAR AND A HALF – BASICALLY SINCE JIM RUTHERFORD TOOK OVER – AND HE’S BEEN A GOOD SOLDIER THROUGHOUT.” -DAVID PAGNOTTA OF THE FOURTH PERIOD 
 

Pagnotta’s reporting suggests that Dante Fabbro could be a trade piece for Nashville in a potential trade for Garland. Fabbro’s name coming up shouldn’t surprise anyone. I’d argue he’s at the top of Nashville’s trade block list and will remain there all the way up to the trade deadline in 2024.
 

Garland put up a 46-point campaign for Vancouver in 2022-23 while being the subject of trade rumors. He’s a solid top-six player who is on Vancouver’s top line right now, and if you throw him into the mix with Nashville it could push fringe players out like Kiefer Sherwood and Cole Smith out.

 

It’s also being reported that Vancouver will likely have to retain some of Garland’s $4.95M AAV, but how much is speculation. On the flip side, the Predators have cap space to play around with at roughly just over $7.8M, while Fabbro makes just $2.5M AAV.

 

A lot of numbers to crunch, but the question is obviously if Garland is worth shaking up the core of this roster yet again. A roster that has already gone through so much change since last trade deadline, and is still trying to find its way after three games.

 

Although Garland would be a boost to the offense and even provide more help to the power play, which is 1-for-14 through three games, this also comes with some baggage. Garland has two more years left, so you have to hope he provides you a noticeable boost to the lineup to take on two more years with him.
 

Might be a Good Idea to Flip Fabbro for Garland

 

Being just shy of 28-years-old, it is a positive that Garland is still in the middle of his prime and could blossom with a new team. He has never surpassed 52 points in season, but has always been a steady contributor for both the Coyotes and Canucks.

Garland can also go out and get you some clutch goals in critical moments, and the Predators have always been thin at the winger spot when it comes to that.

 

The negative ripple effect to this is of course, does that mean Evangelista or Tomasino get buried further down the depth chart to find space for Garland? You’re not trading for Garland for him to be in a bottom-six minimal role. Just not happening.

 

I’m honestly torn on how I feel about this. On one hand it’s probably time to move on from Fabbro, and flipping him for a veteran top-six forward who still has upside would be worth it for Fabbro.

 

Additionally, there’s no indication at all that Fabbro will be here past next offseason as he’ll be a RFA with arbitration eligibility.

 

If this trade were to happen, the Predators would have a rock solid top-six with some offensive playmakers, but their defensive corps would get a little thinner. With that said, it comes down to how much faith they have in their current defensive prospects like Jake Livingstone, Spencer Stastney and Jordan Gross.

 

The Predators could survive with moving on from Fabbro in favor of adding Garland to their forwards, and you could even say they’d be a better overall team in that swap. The risk is supplanting your youth, shaking up more chemistry and potentially carrying a failed project for another two years on the books if it doesn’t work out.
 

https://predlines.com/2023/10/16/nashville-predators-rumors-garland/

We’ll get to scout Fabbro soon enough…

[Huggy Bear]

8 minutes ago, Elias Pettersson said:

 

@Elias Pettersson your thoughts on Roslovic? 

[N4ZZY]

3 hours ago, wai_lai416 said:

we dont need to be friends.. at this point podz is not trending well.. his preseason wasn't great either, he's looking more and more like a 3rd line hard working grinder that have some scoring ability and size.. and that's only if he makes it. if that a piece that can get you a proven top 4 D.. you probably take it and run.. 

 

Podkolzin is the question mark. I thought he was going to make it into a top six role ideally, but I think many projected him to become a middle six player. So if that's what he becomes if he does hit, then it ain't that bad. 

 

[RakuRaku]

1 hour ago, Elias Pettersson said:

 

Would make more sense to explore a bigger deal for Roslovic and Peeke!! 

 

Would Columbus go for Garland, Podkolzin and picks??

[flickyoursedin]

13 minutes ago, RakuRaku said:

Would make more sense to explore a bigger deal for Roslovic and Peeke!! 

 

Would Columbus go for Garland, Podkolzin and picks??

Probably would because Peeke has term and was just scratched. I don’t think he’s valued as much as people talk him up on these boards.

[Elias Pettersson]

1 hour ago, Huggy Bear said:

@Elias Pettersson your thoughts on Roslovic? 

Roslovic can play centre and right wing, similar to Lafferty. He doesn’t kill penalties and is not great defensively but he could replace Garland’s point production on the 3rd line. His contract also expires in the summer, so his $4 million would be off the books in a year. 
 

I’d definitely do Roslovic for Garland, especially if no money is retained. However, I’m assuming Columbus wants to get rid of a RHDman as well. 
 

Both Roslovic and Peeke were scratched tonight. I could see a bigger deal with both of them. 
 

To Vancouver:

Andrew Peeke

Jack Roslovic 

 

To Columbus:

Conor Garland

Pius Suter

Aidan McDonough

Jack Rathbone 

 

I know we just got Suter and he’s playing well, but we’d have to match the salary coming back. In this trade it works cap wise for Vancouver and we get $4 million off the books next season. Roslovic would replace Suter as 3C. And Blueger could also play as 3C. 

[Elias Pettersson]

46 minutes ago, RakuRaku said:

Would make more sense to explore a bigger deal for Roslovic and Peeke!! 

 

Would Columbus go for Garland, Podkolzin and picks??

I wouldn’t trade Podkolzin unless we are getting a power forward back. Lawson Crouse or Trent Frederic. 

[Lemon Face]

38 minutes ago, Elias Pettersson said:

Roslovic can play centre and right wing, similar to Lafferty. He doesn’t kill penalties and is not great defensively but he could replace Garland’s point production on the 3rd line. His contract also expires in the summer, so his $4 million would be off the books in a year. 
 

I’d definitely do Roslovic for Garland, especially if no money is retained. However, I’m assuming Columbus wants to get rid of a RHDman as well. 
 

Both Roslovic and Peeke were scratched tonight. I could see a bigger deal with both of them. 
 

To Vancouver:

Andrew Peeke

Jack Roslovic 

 

To Columbus:

Conor Garland

Pius Suter

Aidan McDonough

Jack Rathbone 

 

I know we just got Suter and he’s playing well, but we’d have to match the salary coming back. In this trade it works cap wise for Vancouver and we get $4 million off the books next season. Roslovic would replace Suter as 3C. And Blueger could also play as 3C. 

You should get read off BEU not Suter

[filthy animal]

On 10/10/2023 at 5:04 PM, AnthonyG said:

Lmfao this is your unrealistic expectations of JB

 

1) Rebuild an entire core in 1 draft

1) stock the cupboards full of high end prospects in the 2nd draft

1) make playoffs every year

1) contend for the cup every year

 

 

 

And yet your expectations of Mike Gillis was

 

1) Keep a healthy stock of prospects and picks while the team keeps winning presidents trophies

2) Make the playoffs every year ON TOP with the Burke and Nonis regime, which is 10 out of the 14 years they made the playoffs. How long were you expecting Gillis to keep the good times going, another 10 years? LOL

 

and youre last two points are completely moronic, nobody expected Jim Benning to make it to the playoffs every year let alone contend for a cup. Rebuild an entire core in 1 draft? dude what are you smoking? The team Benning inherited missed the playoffs once in 6 years, and had 83pts in the final season (btw would be 2nd in the Benning era, which is pretty sad), you make it sound like he got a consistent 65-70 pts team like what Benning left Jim Rutherford. Keep posting, and we'll keep laughing

 

Real tough by the way calling out people here like you do in what 2 out of 3 of your posts? Bet you couldn't say that in any of our faces thats for damn sure

 

 

 

 

 

[filthy animal]

On 10/10/2023 at 5:14 PM, Ribs said:

 

  

 

Keep swearing and insulting everyone and see how that goes for you.

 

Its easy for Anthony to act tough behind a keyboard

[filthy animal]

On 10/10/2023 at 12:23 PM, PureQuickness said:

 

Honestly, he shouldn't have re-signed Miller. It's a little bit ironic that Allvin uses the re-tool word, but doesn't get nearly as much as criticism as when Benning did. This is the hypocrisy I wanted to point out.

 

Benning left the team in a way that Allvin could've done a refresh on, but Benning's the one that gets all the criticism for the decisions that Allvin/JR has made.

 

I just want to call things as they are.

 

Benning also was in a flat cap era, in a period where there was supposedly cap that was going up. Allvin now knows that the cap will go up. You can't criticize a GM who planned for a higher cap, but this changed when COVID happened. In a way, it's nobody's fault, but also Benning's fault for not preparing himself room.

It's like Allvin. We're so tight to the cap that when Soucy's injury happened, we are in a somewhat precarious situation. It's not Allvin's fault that Soucy got injured. But we've seen this song and dance before when you give yourself so little room to manuever. I feel like we are re-living another era of Benning 2.0, but this time there are better free agent signings by Allvin and more questionable trades.

 

Ok so youre using Covid as an excuse for Bennings failures.

 

If thats the scenario then Covid can't be used as a crutch for Benning making it to the playoffs 2nd time in what? 8 years?

 

1 playoff appearance out of 8 seasons, thats Mike Milbury territory in worst GMs in league history

 

Fact, Milbury has a better win percentage than Jim Benning =p

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5 hours ago, RWJC said:

Regardless, no more floaters

 

Yep. This is key. If Mantha has lost his desire to compete, and work hard, then that's not the kind of player we want or need in the locker room let alone on the ice. Your right, at least Garland works his ass off on the ice.  I'd rather have a smaller guy who works hard, than a big guy who's lazy. 

 

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3 minutes ago, N4ZZY said:

 

Yep. This is key. If Mantha has lost his desire to compete, and work hard, then that's not the kind of player we want or need in the locker room let alone on the ice. Your right, at least Garland works his ass off on the ice.  I'd rather have a smaller guy who works hard, than a big guy who's lazy. 

 

If Garland's salary was 3 mill per, I don't think anybody would be complaining