cripplereh Posted October 21, 2023 Share Posted October 21, 2023 59 minutes ago, Gurn said: Connor Garland E.P. 2 For Connor Bedard. Make sure to print the ex Canuck names in small print, so their fans don't notice they got the D and not the F. We would have to add three or 4 firsts 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
higgyfan Posted October 21, 2023 Share Posted October 21, 2023 53 minutes ago, Elias Pettersson said: I'd do Garland for Anthony Mantha. At the end of the day, if we can clear the entire cap space of Garland's contract off the books for next season that would be better than getting a draft pick. We can then go and get Nikita Zadorov in free agency with the extra $4.95 million in cap space next summer... I like it EP. Mantha would work well on the 3rd line, enabling a Beau trade in the upcoming month as well. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alflives Posted October 21, 2023 Share Posted October 21, 2023 56 minutes ago, Elias Pettersson said: I'd do Garland for Anthony Mantha. At the end of the day, if we can clear the entire cap space of Garland's contract off the books for next season that would be better than getting a draft pick. We can then go and get Nikita Zadorov in free agency with the extra $4.95 million in cap space next summer... That trade would be great for us. Would the Caps do it? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WHL rocks Posted October 21, 2023 Share Posted October 21, 2023 40 minutes ago, Alflives said: That trade would be great for us. Would the Caps do it? Ofcourse not. We would need to eat a chunk of the additional two years of Garland's contract. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alflives Posted October 21, 2023 Share Posted October 21, 2023 1 minute ago, WHL rocks said: Ofcourse not. We would need to eat a chunk of the additional two years of Garland's contract. BENNING! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elias Pettersson Posted October 21, 2023 Share Posted October 21, 2023 43 minutes ago, Alflives said: That trade would be great for us. Would the Caps do it? Apparently they are in on Garland. They have to fit in his cap somehow. Mantha is the obvious guy they want to move. Not sure they care too much about the term. They basically want more guys to help out with Ovechkin to break the record. Washington isn't going anywhere until Ovi is gone and they go full rebuild... 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Heffy Posted October 21, 2023 Share Posted October 21, 2023 19 minutes ago, Elias Pettersson said: Apparently they are in on Garland. They have to fit in his cap somehow. Mantha is the obvious guy they want to move. Not sure they care too much about the term. They basically want more guys to help out with Ovechkin to break the record. Washington isn't going anywhere until Ovi is gone and they go full rebuild... I still don't think they do it unless management causes further damage by retaining salary. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elias Pettersson Posted October 21, 2023 Share Posted October 21, 2023 4 minutes ago, King Heffy said: I still don't think they do it unless management causes further damage by retaining salary. Mantha has a higher cap hit than Garland. So don't think retention of salary would be on the table. Washington needs bodies to help Ovi break the record. That's all they care about for the next 2-3 years. Their team is awful and they will need to go full rebuild once Ovi retires. So the timeline of 3 years for Garland works for them... 1 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WHL rocks Posted October 21, 2023 Share Posted October 21, 2023 Fan attendance at NHL games is declining. Caps had a decade plus sell out streak broken a couple of days ago. Many teams across the NHL are reporting lower attendance. Revenue will become an issue for many teams in the coming months. Teams will be more hesitant than usual in taking on a bad contract like Garland's. For this reason trading Garland without retaining salary or taking back a similar contract becomes even more difficult. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WHL rocks Posted October 21, 2023 Share Posted October 21, 2023 (edited) 9 minutes ago, Elias Pettersson said: Mantha has a higher cap hit than Garland. So don't think retention of salary would be on the table. Washington needs bodies to help Ovi break the record. That's all they care about for the next 2-3 years. Their team is awful and they will need to go full rebuild once Ovi retires. So the timeline of 3 years for Garland works for them... Mantha's cap hit is $700k more than Garland's but that problem disappears at the end of the season. Garland's problem continues for another 2 years after this. Unless Caps management has a collective brain aneurysm I find it hard to believe they would even consider straight up trading Mantha for Garland let alone following thru with an actual trade. Edited October 21, 2023 by WHL rocks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post WSAcanuck Posted October 21, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted October 21, 2023 (edited) 14 minutes ago, WHL rocks said: Mantha's cap hit is $700k more than Garland's but that problem disappears at the end of the season. Garland's problem continues for another 2 years after this. Unless Caps management has a collective brain aneurysm I find it hard to believe they would even consider straight up trading Mantha for Garland let alone following thru with an actual trade. Too bad Jim Benning hasn’t got another gig as gm somewhere. He is the only gm who thinks trading expiring cap dumps for future cap dumps is a smart play. Well I guess I just explained why he is unemployed still. Edited October 21, 2023 by WSAcanuck 3 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WHL rocks Posted October 21, 2023 Share Posted October 21, 2023 2 minutes ago, WSAcanuck said: Too bad Jim Benning hasn’t got another gig as gm somewhere. He is the only gm who thinks trading expiring cap dumps for future cap dumps is a smart play. Well I guess I just explained why he is unemployed still. Lol. When I wrote the post you just quoted I thought to my self too bad JB isn't the GM in the league right now. He would jump on this type of deal. Heck he might even send a 1st rounder as part of the package. 2nd rounder for sure. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WSAcanuck Posted October 21, 2023 Share Posted October 21, 2023 3 minutes ago, WHL rocks said: Lol. When I wrote the post you just quoted I thought to my self too bad JB isn't the GM in the league right now. He would jump on this type of deal. Heck he might even send a 1st rounder as part of the package. 2nd rounder for sure. Don’t forget the token 7th as well. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Heffy Posted October 21, 2023 Share Posted October 21, 2023 9 minutes ago, WSAcanuck said: Too bad Jim Benning hasn’t got another gig as gm somewhere. He is the only gm who thinks trading expiring cap dumps for future cap dumps is a smart play. Well I guess I just explained why he is unemployed still. Dubas for some reason was gifted another job, and he's even more stupid than Benning. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WSAcanuck Posted October 21, 2023 Share Posted October 21, 2023 Just now, King Heffy said: Dubas for some reason was gifted another job, and he's even more stupid than Benning. Let’s not go too crazy. Benning was pretty much allergic to things going anything but worst case. It was actually kind of otherworldly levels of ineptitude. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhillipBlunt Posted October 21, 2023 Share Posted October 21, 2023 Carolina: Garland, Podkolzin, and 2024 1st to Vancouver: Brett Pesce, Brendan Lemieux 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WHL rocks Posted October 21, 2023 Share Posted October 21, 2023 (edited) 17 minutes ago, King Heffy said: Dubas for some reason was gifted another job, and he's even more stupid than Benning. I don't think Dubas got close to Benning's level of incompetence. Benning imo is in a league of his own. To top it off Benning had John Weisbrod as his sidekick advising him. Perfect reimagination of dumb and dumber in professional sports. Edited October 21, 2023 by WHL rocks 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Heffy Posted October 21, 2023 Share Posted October 21, 2023 19 minutes ago, WSAcanuck said: Let’s not go too crazy. Benning was pretty much allergic to things going anything but worst case. It was actually kind of otherworldly levels of ineptitude. Benning was at least qualified to work in hockey ops. Dubas has proven that he has absolutely no understanding of the sport. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WSAcanuck Posted October 21, 2023 Share Posted October 21, 2023 4 minutes ago, WHL rocks said: I don't think Dubas got close to Benning's level of incompetence. Benning imo is in a league of his own. To top it off Benning had John Weisbrod as his sidekick advising him. Closest pair to dumb and dumber in professional sports. I was more happy about Weisbrod getting fired than Benning. That guy is an absolute cancer anywhere he goes. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J-23 Posted October 21, 2023 Share Posted October 21, 2023 (edited) 37 minutes ago, PhillipBlunt said: Carolina: Garland, Podkolzin, and 2024 1st to Vancouver: Brett Pesce, Brendan Lemieux I still think Podkolzin will be a good middle 6 forward. Garland for something around Peeke. 1st, Hoglander, Beauvillier, + for Pesce, Lemieux No idea if that works for cap or if that's a fair offer, or what we do with Myers. Right side would look good. Though we probably are not in a position to be moving 1sts and our bottom 6 would not be good. Sign Kessel (very unlikely), good veteran that knows Rutherford and Rick. Just to be a placeholder on that 3rd line. Mikheyev - Pettersson - Kuzmenko Giuseppe - Miller - Boeser Kessel - Blueger - Rafferty Joshua - Suter - Lemieux Hughes - Pesce Cole - Hronek Soucy - Peeke Edited October 21, 2023 by J-23 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elias Pettersson Posted October 21, 2023 Share Posted October 21, 2023 1 hour ago, WHL rocks said: Mantha's cap hit is $700k more than Garland's but that problem disappears at the end of the season. Garland's problem continues for another 2 years after this. Unless Caps management has a collective brain aneurysm I find it hard to believe they would even consider straight up trading Mantha for Garland let alone following thru with an actual trade. Washington is basically all in on Ovi's record. That's about it. Once he breaks it, they are done and will be in full rebuild mode for a decade. They need some bodies for next year too. Garland could help them. If you look at their roster, once Ovi is a UFA, they will have $75 million in cap space, so that is when the rebuild starts. They may trade off players for picks and prospects before then depending on where Ovi is at with his record. If he breaks it early, then they can start their rebuild earlier. Garland's contract will be done at the same time as Ovi, so he can help for the next 3 years. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canuck73_3 Posted October 21, 2023 Share Posted October 21, 2023 1 hour ago, WHL rocks said: Mantha's cap hit is $700k more than Garland's but that problem disappears at the end of the season. Garland's problem continues for another 2 years after this. Unless Caps management has a collective brain aneurysm I find it hard to believe they would even consider straight up trading Mantha for Garland let alone following thru with an actual trade. The Caps are desperate for foot speed 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elias Pettersson Posted October 21, 2023 Share Posted October 21, 2023 (edited) Peeke and Boqvist both in the press box tonight. They won and played well too. With Severson, Jiricek and Gudbranson on the right side, something has to give. They can't have those guys in the press box all season... Edited October 21, 2023 by Elias Pettersson 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
filthy animal Posted October 21, 2023 Share Posted October 21, 2023 6 hours ago, WHL rocks said: I don't , think Dubas got close to Benning's level of incompetence. Benning imo is in a league of his own. To top it off Benning had John Weisbrod as his sidekick advising him. Perfect reimagination of dumb and dumber in professional sports. Im not sure anybody is going to top Bennings level of incompetence The only team I can think of that finishes near bottom of the standings repeatedly, throws away draft picks away like halloween candy, a piss poor prospect pool and yet for some reason, is right up against the cap. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wai_lai416 Posted October 21, 2023 Share Posted October 21, 2023 2 hours ago, filthy animal said: Im not sure anybody is going to top Bennings level of incompetence The only team I can think of that finishes near bottom of the standings repeatedly, throws away draft picks away like halloween candy, a piss poor prospect pool and yet for some reason, is right up against the cap. edmonton right up until mcdavid. only difference is they didn't throw away draft picks.. but their prospect pool is pretty bad considering how many draft picks and high picks they gotten.. they are close but not quite benning level. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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