Huggy Bear Posted October 24, 2023 Share Posted October 24, 2023 5 minutes ago, Attila Umbrus said: They played as a line in pre season and they were an absolute handful. I think Toc is averse to that line because they are all small…but who cares if they are buzzing about keeping the puck out of their dzone. I have liked Joshua lately too. So he does bring some size there. But I don’t think they need it. Drop Joshua down with Lafferty and Blueger when he’s back. Thats a heck if 4th line. Yeah, Joshua - Blueger - Lafferty is a quality 4th line 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stawns Posted October 24, 2023 Share Posted October 24, 2023 Just now, canucks curse said: To STL Garland Myers 2025 1st klimovich hoglander To VAN Justin Faulk 2024 3rd Didn't Justin faulk refuse to cross the border in Canada over vaccines? Hard no from me, and probably him as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Tusk Posted October 24, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted October 24, 2023 6 minutes ago, canucks curse said: To STL Garland Myers 2025 1st klimovich hoglander To VAN Justin Faulk 2024 3rd did you forget the "AND ONE MILLION DOLLARS"? 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Attila Umbrus Posted October 24, 2023 Share Posted October 24, 2023 4 minutes ago, stawns said: I hope tocchet isn't a dinosaur about that kind of thing. Size isn't much of a factor anymore, despite the hand wringing over it on here. Garland is one of the grittier players on the team and hogz plays a very similar style. That gives them three offensive lines and a big, pretty fast 4th line I think Toc has a bit of that in him…he really wants Joshua to succeed. Which I kinda don’t blame him. We are pretty light forward wise. That being said, the way he’s been rolling 4 lines, Joshua would still be effective on the 4th line. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tusk Posted October 24, 2023 Share Posted October 24, 2023 7 minutes ago, stawns said: Didn't Justin faulk refuse to cross the border in Canada over vaccines? Hard no from me, and probably him as well. I think the point was we could get all that cap space in trade for a quart of potatoes. or a trading stamp. Just need a buyer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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higgyfan Posted October 24, 2023 Share Posted October 24, 2023 6 minutes ago, stawns said: I hope tocchet isn't a dinosaur about that kind of thing. Size isn't much of a factor anymore, despite the hand wringing over it on here. Garland is one of the grittier players on the team and hogz plays a very similar style. That gives them three offensive lines and a big, pretty fast 4th line I think Tocc likes Gar's game. He's said some good things about him, so I think if Conor is a good fit on a line, he'll want to keep him. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alflives Posted October 24, 2023 Share Posted October 24, 2023 11 minutes ago, canucks curse said: To STL Garland Myers 2025 1st klimovich hoglander To VAN Justin Faulk 2024 3rd 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J-23 Posted October 24, 2023 Share Posted October 24, 2023 11 minutes ago, canucks curse said: To STL Garland Myers 2025 1st klimovich hoglander To VAN Justin Faulk 2024 3rd If we are moving a 1st round pick, I hope it's a sign and trade for Pesce. 1st, Beauvillier, Hoglander. Not really good at these things, but something like that. 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
higgyfan Posted October 24, 2023 Share Posted October 24, 2023 14 minutes ago, stawns said: Didn't Justin faulk refuse to cross the border in Canada over vaccines? Hard no from me, and probably him as well. Luckily he has an NTC. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RWJC Posted October 24, 2023 Share Posted October 24, 2023 17 minutes ago, canucks curse said: To STL Garland Myers 2025 1st klimovich hoglander To VAN Justin Faulk 2024 3rd Faulk has previously basically said “Faulk You” to ever playing for a Canadian team. And that proposal isn’t very likely at all. Sorry. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alflives Posted October 24, 2023 Share Posted October 24, 2023 Just now, J-23 said: If we are moving a 1st round pick, I hope it's a sign and trade for Pesce. 1st, Beauvillier, Hoglander. Not really good at these things, but something like that. Yup. I don’t see Allvin moving our own first. If he can somehow get another clubs first he will certainly use that, like he did with Bo. Maybe Allvin can get another club’s second and use that? Pesce would be great. Just don’t see a path, right now, to getting him via trade. Sadly these elite level D rarely make it to free agency. They either sign and stay or are traded (as you suggest we do) to a new club and sign there. If we could get Pesce would he go eith Hughes and Hronek anchor our second pairing? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elias Pettersson Posted October 24, 2023 Share Posted October 24, 2023 24 minutes ago, Attila Umbrus said: They played as a line in pre season and they were an absolute handful. I think Toc is averse to that line because they are all small…but who cares if they are buzzing about keeping the puck out of their dzone. I have liked Joshua lately too. So he does bring some size there. But I don’t think they need it. Drop Joshua down with Lafferty and Blueger when he’s back. Thats a heck if 4th line. Kuzmenko Pettersson Mikheyev Joshua Blueger Lafferty IMO, we have 2 complete lines. The first line and the 4th line. What we are missing is a couple players in the middle Lines. Love PDG, but he needs to be on the 3rd line not in the top 6. We need to find a big bruising power forward who can play with Miller and Boeser. PDG and Suter works on the 3rd line. We need to find them a complimentary winger as well. Hoglander could be moved up and down the lineup as the 13th forward. So this means Beauvillier and Garland need to go. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stawns Posted October 24, 2023 Share Posted October 24, 2023 Just now, Elias Pettersson said: Kuzmenko Pettersson Mikheyev Joshua Blueger Lafferty IMO, we have 2 complete lines. The first line and the 4th line. What we are missing is a couple players in the middle Lines. Love PDG, but he needs to be on the 3rd line not in the top 6. We need to find a big bruising power forward who can play with Miller and Boeser. PDG and Suter works on the 3rd line. We need to find them a complimentary winger as well. Hoglander could be moved up and down the lineup as the 13th forward. So this means Beauvillier and Garland need to go. In an individual context, maybe. However, that line works and PDG is a big part of why. If for no other reason, it means that Miller doesn't have to be the first forechecker in, allowing him to sit back and see how the play develops. PDG forces the turnover, Miller gets the turnover on Boesers stick and Boes gets the shot on net. 1 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J-23 Posted October 24, 2023 Share Posted October 24, 2023 (edited) 13 minutes ago, Alflives said: Yup. I don’t see Allvin moving our own first. If he can somehow get another clubs first he will certainly use that, like he did with Bo. Maybe Allvin can get another club’s second and use that? Pesce would be great. Just don’t see a path, right now, to getting him via trade. Sadly these elite level D rarely make it to free agency. They either sign and stay or are traded (as you suggest we do) to a new club and sign there. If we could get Pesce would he go eith Hughes and Hronek anchor our second pairing? I don't want to trade another 1st either but if we are going to move it. 1st, Beauvillier, Hoglander for Pesce Garland + for Peeke No chance any of these deals happen but: Hughes - Pesce Cole - Hronek Soucy - Myers/Peeke Then we got Willander and Hunter also, when they are ready to go we can trade one of these guys on our roster. This scenario only works if everything goes right. Edited October 24, 2023 by J-23 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alflives Posted October 24, 2023 Share Posted October 24, 2023 1 minute ago, J-23 said: I don't want to trade another 1st either but if we are going to move it. 1st, Beauvillier, Hoglander for Pesce Garland + for Peeke No chance any of these deals happen but: Hughes - Pesce Cole - Hronek Soucy - Myers/Peeke Then we got Willander and Hunter also, when they are ready to go we can trade one of these guys on our roster. This scenario only works if everything goes right. Love these ideas! Who thought Allvin could turn Horfat Wallet into a 25 year old, elite right shot D? Yet he did. So maybe what you’re suggesting can actually happen? Our D would be top five n the league. Maybe even better. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elias Pettersson Posted October 24, 2023 Share Posted October 24, 2023 18 minutes ago, stawns said: In an individual context, maybe. However, that line works and PDG is a big part of why. If for no other reason, it means that Miller doesn't have to be the first forechecker in, allowing him to sit back and see how the play develops. PDG forces the turnover, Miller gets the turnover on Boesers stick and Boes gets the shot on net. PDG works with Miller and Boeser. However, at some point you need more scoring from that 3rd player. PDG is not a top 6 forward. I have no problem with him on the 3rd line. We need a Lawson Crouse type to complete the top 6 and to get bigger and tougher up front. Especially given our lack of size on the 3rd line... 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rip The Mesh Posted October 24, 2023 Share Posted October 24, 2023 34 minutes ago, Alflives said: Yup. I don’t see Allvin moving our own first. If he can somehow get another clubs first he will certainly use that, like he did with Bo. Maybe Allvin can get another club’s second and use that? Pesce would be great. Just don’t see a path, right now, to getting him via trade. Sadly these elite level D rarely make it to free agency. They either sign and stay or are traded (as you suggest we do) to a new club and sign there. If we could get Pesce would he go eith Hughes and Hronek anchor our second pairing? Very non Benning of you Alf! Most eccelent! 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stawns Posted October 24, 2023 Share Posted October 24, 2023 2 minutes ago, Elias Pettersson said: PDG works with Miller and Boeser. However, at some point you need more scoring from that 3rd player. PDG is not a top 6 forward. I have no problem with him on the 3rd line. We need a Lawson Crouse type to complete the top 6 and to get bigger and tougher up front. Especially given our lack of size on the 3rd line... Not everyone on a line needs numbers. That line works well, that's all that matters 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J-23 Posted October 24, 2023 Share Posted October 24, 2023 7 minutes ago, Elias Pettersson said: PDG works with Miller and Boeser. However, at some point you need more scoring from that 3rd player. PDG is not a top 6 forward. I have no problem with him on the 3rd line. We need a Lawson Crouse type to complete the top 6 and to get bigger and tougher up front. Especially given our lack of size on the 3rd line... I disagree with you here, that line works well because of him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elias Pettersson Posted October 24, 2023 Share Posted October 24, 2023 4 minutes ago, stawns said: Not everyone on a line needs numbers. That line works well, that's all that matters It works well when Boeser is getting 4 goals in one game. Once the goals dry up on his side, the other winger needs to contribute. Not sure there are many top 6 wingers in the league who are putting up 15 points in a year... 1 minute ago, J-23 said: I disagree with you here, that line works well because of him. Do you think it's sustainable to have a 15-point winger in your top 6? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J-23 Posted October 24, 2023 Share Posted October 24, 2023 1 minute ago, Elias Pettersson said: Do you think it's sustainable to have a 15-point winger in your top 6? Let him play a full season before you come to that conclusion in my opinion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elias Pettersson Posted October 24, 2023 Share Posted October 24, 2023 Just now, J-23 said: Let him play a full season before you come to that conclusion in my opinion. PDG is 30 years old. Maybe he will prove me wrong. But I don't think he is more than a hard working 15-20 point winger who is a good fit on the 3rd line. Maybe this will be his "breakout" year... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RWJC Posted October 24, 2023 Share Posted October 24, 2023 I’d say run with PDG on that line until it goes stale. JTM majorly benefits from someone with that work ethic. Like most things, it will eventually run its course though and Tocchet will blenderize. Until then, it means we’re getting great value out of a cheap cap hit utility player. That’s exactly the kind of option you need to help become a competitive club. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gawdzukes Posted October 24, 2023 Share Posted October 24, 2023 47 minutes ago, Elias Pettersson said: PDG and Suter works on the 3rd line. We need to find them a complimentary winger as well. Hoglander could be moved up and down the lineup as the 13th forward. So this means Beauvillier and Garland need to go. Brilliant. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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