MeanSeanBean Posted November 18, 2023 Share Posted November 18, 2023 2 hours ago, Johngould21 said: Vega$ didn't need him in their Stanley Cup run last spring, so that is telling. No to Phil the thrill. How is it telling? Vegas was historically deep up front with a 4th line that many teams would be happy with their 3rd, and some their 2nd. The fact a team that good wanted him in the room and to fill in for injuries is what is telling 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nucker67 Posted November 18, 2023 Share Posted November 18, 2023 2 hours ago, Johngould21 said: Vega$ didn't need him in their Stanley Cup run last spring, so that is telling. No to Phil the thrill. meh, his Cup ring disagrees 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VegasCanuck Posted November 18, 2023 Share Posted November 18, 2023 As long as he's signing for something around 1 million for depth and support, I wouldn't say that it would hurt us, he has lots of experience on cup winning teams. I think he would be brought in as a stop gap type of player, not a guy that plays every night, probably doesn't play back to back games. Right price? Sure, why not? As long as we can move someone else to round out defense in the process.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steviewonder20 Posted November 19, 2023 Share Posted November 19, 2023 On 10/17/2023 at 2:28 PM, Analyst82 said: Which city has the best hot dogs? This will narrow down the list! I don't think we are even considering signing him. https://nhlrumors.com/nhl-rumors-phil-kessel-and-the-vancouver-canucks/2023/11/18/ according to this article we are. He’s 36 years old. It makes no sense if we want to be a fast team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MeanSeanBean Posted November 19, 2023 Share Posted November 19, 2023 3 hours ago, steviewonder20 said: https://nhlrumors.com/nhl-rumors-phil-kessel-and-the-vancouver-canucks/2023/11/18/ according to this article we are. He’s 36 years old. It makes no sense if we want to be a fast team. We aren't a fast team though, that doesn't mean we can't play fast. Tocc wants this team to play fast hockey, fast passes, fast plays. It's not always about how fast you can skate, but sometimes how fast you can think. Kessel has 10 years NHL experience on Pettersson, and there's something to be said for experience. The Sedins to this day rave about how influential Sundin was to their development into superstars. I'd 100% be down to let Kessel spend this season mentoring our young team. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boziffous Posted November 20, 2023 Share Posted November 20, 2023 I've seen a couple of posters say that Kessel is a slow skater. I know he's 36 now, but has his skating fallen off that much? He was always one of the faster skaters from what I remember. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NotJimBenning Posted November 20, 2023 Share Posted November 20, 2023 People can say what they want about Kessel. No matter what shape he's in, he always produces and he's extremely competitive. Pens don't get their b2b cups without him. He was good in Arizona and has been well liked wherever he's been. If he's coming in on a minimum contract. I say, why not. If he shows up and is producing it gives us more options. Options are always a good thing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sophomore Jinx Posted November 20, 2023 Share Posted November 20, 2023 Veteran winners have a valuable, and understated place on up and coming teams, and with his insight, great personality, and winning pedigree he'd be a great addition. I hope we land him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Integra250 Posted November 20, 2023 Share Posted November 20, 2023 Where does he play though? Surely one of Kuzmenko, Boeser, or Garland would be shipped out. Doesn’t make any sense. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elias Pettersson Posted November 20, 2023 Share Posted November 20, 2023 Phil Kessel has 83 points in 100 playoff games. He would be a huge upgrade on Beauvillier or Garland in the playoffs. Play him on the 3rd line with Suter, basically taking Garland's spot. If we can trade Garland and get some cap relief we can sign Kessel to replace him. Garland for Andrew Peeke. Columbus is just awful right now, they've lost 14 of their last 15 games. They need to shake things up and need more goal scoring. Peeke and Boqvist are rotting in the press box. I'd easily do Garland for Peeke and then sign Kessel to replace Garland. Then I'd trade Beauvillier and Hoglander to Calgary for Zadorov. Boom, defence is fixed and we still have our scoring up front. And we have a great playoff performer in Kessel for this season's playoff run. We may even have some cap space to sign Bear as a 6/7 guy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lionized27 Posted November 20, 2023 Share Posted November 20, 2023 8 minutes ago, Elias Pettersson said: Phil Kessel has 83 points in 100 playoff games. He would be a huge upgrade on Beauvillier or Garland in the playoffs. Play him on the 3rd line with Suter, basically taking Garland's spot. If we can trade Garland and get some cap relief we can sign Kessel to replace him. Garland for Andrew Peeke. Columbus is just awful right now, they've lost 14 of their last 15 games. They need to shake things up and need more goal scoring. Peeke and Boqvist are rotting in the press box. I'd easily do Garland for Peeke and then sign Kessel to replace Garland. Then I'd trade Beauvillier and Hoglander to Calgary for Zadorov. Boom, defence is fixed and we still have our scoring up front. And we have a great playoff performer in Kessel for this season's playoff run. We may even have some cap space to sign Bear as a 6/7 guy. Give Allvin the Jim Gregory immediately if he convinces Kekäläinen Garland is the answer to their offensive woes. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elias Pettersson Posted November 20, 2023 Share Posted November 20, 2023 23 minutes ago, lionized27 said: Give Allvin the Jim Gregory immediately if he convinces Kekäläinen Garland is the answer to their offensive woes. Kekäläinen is probably about 5 games from being fired. So, he should be picking up the phone if Allvin calls him... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wai_lai416 Posted November 20, 2023 Share Posted November 20, 2023 13 minutes ago, Elias Pettersson said: Kekäläinen is probably about 5 games from being fired. So, he should be picking up the phone if Allvin calls him... i'm sure the ownership probably already decided but they are searching for a candidate in the background. i doubt he has any authority left to make any changes without going thru the ownership first. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boudrias Posted November 20, 2023 Share Posted November 20, 2023 Sign Kessel and Hogs sits. Not interested. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Long Posted November 20, 2023 Share Posted November 20, 2023 47 minutes ago, Boudrias said: Sign Kessel and Hogs sits. Not interested. I think it's more if we move Beau, we can bring in Phil and Bear for slight upgrades. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bure_Pavel Posted November 20, 2023 Share Posted November 20, 2023 2 hours ago, Bob Long said: I think it's more if we move Beau, we can bring in Phil and Bear for slight upgrades. That would be a great move and not that hard to pull off. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeNiro Posted November 20, 2023 Share Posted November 20, 2023 3 hours ago, Bob Long said: I think it's more if we move Beau, we can bring in Phil and Bear for slight upgrades. Yep, if we can turn Beauvillier into Kessel and Bear that’s a no brainer. Love the speed Beau brings but it just doesn’t make sense having a 4 million dollar 4th liner when we’re desperate for D. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Long Posted November 20, 2023 Share Posted November 20, 2023 31 minutes ago, DeNiro said: Yep, if we can turn Beauvillier into Kessel and Bear that’s a no brainer. Love the speed Beau brings but it just doesn’t make sense having a 4 million dollar 4th liner when we’re desperate for D. the only issue is cost to move Beau, I wonder what GMs are asking for? obviously too high right now and/or retention which doesn't help us. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nucker67 Posted November 20, 2023 Share Posted November 20, 2023 Canucks are almost there. They have their core stars: Pettersson, Miller, Boeser, Hughes, Hronek, Demko They have guys that have won before: JR, PA, Tocchet and his coaches, but sadly, only one player (Cole) They need more winners (Kessel?) and an upgrade on physicality/toughness (Beauvillier) Kuzmenko gets a pass here, because at least he wants to win and he's eager. He's also tough as nails taking that puck to the chin. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bure_Pavel Posted November 20, 2023 Share Posted November 20, 2023 2 hours ago, Bob Long said: the only issue is cost to move Beau, I wonder what GMs are asking for? obviously too high right now and/or retention which doesn't help us. I dont think Beau has negative value at the moment, A team like Nashville, Washington, or Columbus could use extras scoring help and have plenty of cap space. The price would be pretty close to free though. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeNiro Posted December 6, 2023 Share Posted December 6, 2023 Phil Kessel come on down! At this point he can’t provide less than Kuzmenko. Frees them up to trade him or Garland. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Heffy Posted December 6, 2023 Share Posted December 6, 2023 6 minutes ago, DeNiro said: Phil Kessel come on down! At this point he can’t provide less than Kuzmenko. Frees them up to trade him or Garland. I just don't see him signing up to deal with the media in a Canadian city again, and I don't really blame him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeNiro Posted December 6, 2023 Share Posted December 6, 2023 4 minutes ago, King Heffy said: I just don't see him signing up to deal with the media in a Canadian city again, and I don't really blame him. Completely different circumstances and expectations. He wouldn’t need to be the guy in front of the media every day Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RakuRaku Posted December 6, 2023 Share Posted December 6, 2023 I'd take Kessel just to be our PP specialist on a cheap contract.... he and Bear will round out our roster very nicely!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coconuts Posted December 6, 2023 Share Posted December 6, 2023 1 hour ago, King Heffy said: I just don't see him signing up to deal with the media in a Canadian city again, and I don't really blame him. It's also a different scenario, he has three cup wings and absolutely no need to prove himself to Canadian media any further Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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