King Heffy Posted December 4, 2023 Share Posted December 4, 2023 2 hours ago, shiznak said: Honestly, I don’t really care if Soto is a possible rental player. If the Jays falter and don’t make it far into the playoffs next year. You’re probably going to see them enter a rebuild anyways, with Vlad and Bo only controlled for one more year. You can just trade those two and re-gain the prospects you loss in the Soto trade (Tiedemann and Orelvis). If the Jays actually make it far into the playoffs; you do everything possible to re-sign Soto (45m per year), and extend both Vlad and Bo. Agreed. It's time to do something similar to what the Raptors did with Leonard and do everything they can to bolster this core before it's too late. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Northern_Nuck Posted December 4, 2023 Share Posted December 4, 2023 3 hours ago, shiznak said: Honestly, I don’t really care if Soto is a possible rental player. If the Jays falter and don’t make it far into the playoffs next year. You’re probably going to see them enter a rebuild anyways, with Vlad and Bo only controlled for one more year. You can just trade those two and re-gain the prospects you loss in the Soto trade (Tiedemann and Orelvis). If the Jays actually make it far into the playoffs; you do everything possible to re-sign Soto (45m per year), and extend both Vlad and Bo. I think the Jays are actually in a position of strength, their drafting and development under the Shapkins regime has rocketed. I’ve heard that the trade for Soto could be Tiedmann, Manoah, Kirk and clement. If Also by some miracle we land Ohtani, I think we have to do whatever it takes to go all in this year. But they better Fire the hitting coach and Schneider if they falter. No excuses if they build another all star roster. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pears Posted December 4, 2023 Share Posted December 4, 2023 What kind of "scheduling conflict"? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wilbur Posted December 5, 2023 Share Posted December 5, 2023 8 hours ago, Northern_Nuck said: I think the Jays are actually in a position of strength, their drafting and development under the Shapkins regime has rocketed. I’ve heard that the trade for Soto could be Tiedmann, Manoah, Kirk and clement. If Also by some miracle we land Ohtani, I think we have to do whatever it takes to go all in this year. But they better Fire the hitting coach and Schneider if they falter. No excuses if they build another all star roster. Yikes, huge overpayment for Soto. He is a free agent in 1 year (and a Boras client, I believe, so you know he's going to free agency) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
5forFighting Posted December 5, 2023 Share Posted December 5, 2023 8 minutes ago, Wilbur said: Yikes, huge overpayment for Soto. He is a free agent in 1 year (and a Boras client, I believe, so you know he's going to free agency) The ONLY way you pay what San Diego wants is if there is a contract for Soto attached. Otherwise, focus on Ohtani and others. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
5forFighting Posted December 5, 2023 Share Posted December 5, 2023 3 hours ago, Pears said: What kind of "scheduling conflict"? He was in California meeting with Ohtani. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colonel D Posted December 5, 2023 Share Posted December 5, 2023 Get ready everyone, things are happening Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wilbur Posted December 5, 2023 Share Posted December 5, 2023 1 hour ago, Colonel D said: Get ready everyone, things are happening I'll keep my expectations low that they will be Blue Jay things. Can't help it, that's what being a life long Canuck will do to a person. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pears Posted December 5, 2023 Share Posted December 5, 2023 (edited) *Tries unsuccessfully to remain calm* Edited December 5, 2023 by Pears 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Arrogant Worms Posted December 5, 2023 Share Posted December 5, 2023 Blue Jays' Atkins can't say where he is or why he can't say, but it’s tied to Ohtani https://www.sportsnet.ca/mlb/article/blue-jays-atkins-cant-say-where-he-is-or-why-he-cant-say-but-its-tied-to-ohtani/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Long Posted December 5, 2023 Share Posted December 5, 2023 I'd be shocked if this was more than being an also ran, or his agent using the Jays for leverage, but it would be awesome. This would be as game changing as the Alomar Carter trade. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bounce000 Posted December 5, 2023 Author Share Posted December 5, 2023 Jays will ruin it by offering Ohtani Leafs tickets. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RupertKBD Posted December 5, 2023 Share Posted December 5, 2023 You have to wonder how serious the Braves are about Ohtani....According to reports, one of the things that is making the Jays a contender is the fact that Vladdy is there. (probably Bo as well) But playing with Acuna has to be just as attractive.....maybe moreso. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Arrogant Worms Posted December 5, 2023 Share Posted December 5, 2023 Latest Ohtani Rumours: Shohei has a 'positive feeling' about Blue Jays https://www.sportsnet.ca/mlb/article/latest-ohtani-rumours-shohei-has-a-positive-feeling-about-blue-jays/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colonel D Posted December 5, 2023 Share Posted December 5, 2023 4 hours ago, RupertKBD said: You have to wonder how serious the Braves are about Ohtani....According to reports, one of the things that is making the Jays a contender is the fact that Vladdy is there. (probably Bo as well) But playing with Acuna has to be just as attractive.....maybe moreso. Playing with Trout was supposed to be attractive too... though I'll concede the teams are in different positions currently. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RupertKBD Posted December 5, 2023 Share Posted December 5, 2023 27 minutes ago, Colonel D said: Playing with Trout was supposed to be attractive too... though I'll concede the teams are in different positions currently. It's secondhand information, so take it FWIW, but the reports I heard were that Ohtani chose the Angels because he wanted to be on the West coast and because Trout was there. He likely figured they could build a winner there at some point. Now, from what I've heard, being on the west coast isn't as important. (Although the Dodgers are still the favorites, AFAIK) He wants to go someplace he can win. We have to remember that the Jays were a lot of people's preseason pick for the World Series. It's just that nobody counted on Manoah's struggles and down seasons for so many of the hitters. Going into next year, Ohtani must like what he sees in the rotation (even if he won't be part of it for season one) and there's a good chance that hitters like Vladdy, Springer and Varsho have better seasons at the dish. I can't see how it would be otherwise, with the protection (and the left/right balance) that Ohtani would provide. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
runningback33 Posted December 6, 2023 Share Posted December 6, 2023 https://www.tsn.ca/mlb/shohei-ohtani-met-los-angeles-manager-dave-roberts-at-dodger-stadium-1.2044902 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alflives Posted December 6, 2023 Share Posted December 6, 2023 8 minutes ago, runningback33 said: https://www.tsn.ca/mlb/shohei-ohtani-met-los-angeles-manager-dave-roberts-at-dodger-stadium-1.2044902 Ohtani will sign with the Dodgers. Much easier to get home from the west coast for him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
runningback33 Posted December 6, 2023 Share Posted December 6, 2023 https://www.espn.com/mlb/story/_/id/39050983/sources-red-sox-trading-alex-verdugo-yankees-prospects Alex Verdugo to NYY Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bounce000 Posted December 6, 2023 Author Share Posted December 6, 2023 Guess they’re out on the Soto sweepstakes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wilbur Posted December 6, 2023 Share Posted December 6, 2023 I told myself to keep my expectations low for Ohtani coming here. I think I'm failing at that 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
runningback33 Posted December 6, 2023 Share Posted December 6, 2023 Hearing Juan Soto to NYY is close to being finalized Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RupertKBD Posted December 6, 2023 Share Posted December 6, 2023 16 minutes ago, runningback33 said: Hearing Juan Soto to NYY is close to being finalized Yep. And Ohtani decision likely by Sunday. Hopefully Bellinger isn't gone before that decision comes down..... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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runningback33 Posted December 6, 2023 Share Posted December 6, 2023 Blue Jays among teams interested in CF Michael A Taylor 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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