RupertKBD Posted February 8 Share Posted February 8 Vladdy won his arbitration today.....just under $20 million. (the Jays' number was just over $18 million) So far, the players are kicking the teams' ass when it comes to Arb....(something like 7-2 now) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Long Posted February 8 Share Posted February 8 25 minutes ago, RupertKBD said: Vladdy won his arbitration today.....just under $20 million. (the Jays' number was just over $18 million) So far, the players are kicking the teams' ass when it comes to Arb....(something like 7-2 now) I have to think there zero chance of him extending with the jays. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bounce000 Posted February 8 Author Share Posted February 8 The front office is having a bad time this off season lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wilbur Posted February 8 Share Posted February 8 4 minutes ago, Bounce000 said: The front office is having a bad time this off season lol 2nd off season in a row. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gurn Posted February 8 Share Posted February 8 1 hour ago, Bob Long said: I have to think there zero chance of him extending with the jays. The organization may wish to get a new management team, and keep the player. It's not smart to piss off an exceptional player like they seem to be trying to do. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Long Posted February 8 Share Posted February 8 55 minutes ago, Gurn said: The organization may wish to get a new management team, and keep the player. It's not smart to piss off an exceptional player like they seem to be trying to do. It's odd, that's for sure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wilbur Posted February 8 Share Posted February 8 1 hour ago, Gurn said: The organization may wish to get a new management team, and keep the player. It's not smart to piss off an exceptional player like they seem to be trying to do. A feel the Jays are on the road to Mediocrityville and Shapiro and Atkins are driving. Hope I'm wrong, but it's been a while since I have felt this uninspired going into a season. All the run suppression in the world doesn't matter if you can't score them yourselves. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RupertKBD Posted February 8 Share Posted February 8 16 hours ago, Bob Long said: I have to think there zero chance of him extending with the jays. Because of the arbitration? I don't think so.... Vladdy has grown up in the game of professional baseball and he knows that it's a business. If he refuses to resign, it will be because he doesn't like the team's chances of winning, not because the team offered him $1.5 million less than he was worth. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Heffy Posted February 8 Share Posted February 8 20 hours ago, Wilbur said: 2nd off season in a row. Has there ever been a point where they looked like they were remotely qualified for their jobs? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gurn Posted February 9 Share Posted February 9 https://www.msn.com/en-ca/sports/mlb/after-blue-jays-guerrero-jr-go-to-arbitration-one-question-lingers-why/ar-BB1hXg1X?ocid=StaticFallback&pc=U531&cvid=45be79d3ebd54bff81c9dcba38d3db7d&ei=31 "TORONTO — Even if they’d beaten Vladimir Guerrero Jr. — and the Toronto Blue Jays did not, as arbitrators awarded the all-star first baseman’s ask of $19.9 million rather than the club’s $18.05 million offer — the same pivotal question would have lingered: What was the point of that? The arbitration process, after all, is based on comparable players and individual stats, with the uncertainty of what happens once arguments are made to a three-person panel usually driving the sides to make a deal. Hearings can also leave players frustrated — a risk worth avoiding, especially with a cornerstone player eligible for free agency after 2025. Typically, then, the divergence in how club and player see things must be particularly wide to not find middle ground. The Blue Jays had an unusually busy caseload this year, too, with 12 players eligible for arbitration. They found mutually agreeable comps for everyone but Guerrero. As a “file-and-trial” team, the only way out of a hearing for the Blue Jays after the sides traded offer and ask on Jan. 11 was with a multiyear deal, an avenue they used with Josh Donaldson in 2016 and Bo Bichette last winter. With Guerrero, there were no negotiations after they exchanged numbers. All of which makes a pretty hard line for the Blue Jays to take, especially when he’s been on a salary and performance trajectory similar enough to New York Mets slugger Pete Alonso for a strong, convenient and relevant comp. Alonso and Mets agreed at $20.5 million before the Jan. 11 filing deadline. At $19.9 million, Guerrero’s award seems far more in line with that salary than the Blue Jays’ offer of $18.05 million, as the chart below shows. -------------------------------- more at link. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
runningback33 Posted February 13 Share Posted February 13 Soler to SF Giants https://www.tsn.ca/mlb/reports-soler-signs-with-san-francisco-giants-on-three-year-deal-1.2075326 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gurn Posted February 14 Share Posted February 14 Sold- Otto Lopez was sold/traded for cash https://www.msn.com/en-ca/sports/mlb/blue-jays-trade-otto-lopez-to-giants-for-cash-considerations/ar-BB1ieny5?ocid=msedgdhp&pc=U531&cvid=1314519f94234ee2bcc8cf02ced16bca&ei=49 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Arrogant Worms Posted February 15 Share Posted February 15 Blue Jays encouraged by way Alek Manoah 'attacked' off-season -- now it's time he show it https://canoe.com/sports/baseball/toronto-blue-jays/jays-encouraged-by-way-manoah-attacked-off-season/wcm/2bb2ed28-f5bc-4a8f-862e-739746ad2549 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Long Posted February 15 Share Posted February 15 27 minutes ago, The Arrogant Worms said: Blue Jays encouraged by way Alek Manoah 'attacked' off-season -- now it's time he show it https://canoe.com/sports/baseball/toronto-blue-jays/jays-encouraged-by-way-manoah-attacked-off-season/wcm/2bb2ed28-f5bc-4a8f-862e-739746ad2549 thats encouraging. I would never shame anyone, but dude came in too fat last year. Its just a fact. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RupertKBD Posted February 15 Share Posted February 15 (edited) 29 minutes ago, Bob Long said: thats encouraging. I would never shame anyone, but dude came in too fat last year. Its just a fact. He did. Pitchers have been able to get away with carrying extra weight in the past, (Sid Fernandez, Bartolo Colon, David Wells) but that was before the pitch clock was instituted. Manoah clearly struggled with the combination of those two factors..... Edited February 15 by RupertKBD 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Long Posted February 15 Share Posted February 15 5 minutes ago, RupertKBD said: He did. Pitchers have been able to get away with carrying extra weight in the past, (Sid Fernandez, Bartolo Colon, David Wells) but that was before the pitch clock was instituted. Manoah clearly struggled with the combination of those two factors..... good point. Wells was kind of a unit tho, and not sure he ever got as big as Alek was last year. Not sure what he was thinking. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gurn Posted February 16 Share Posted February 16 did you think the Vlad arbitration was a bad idea? Well it seems it was worse than you thought. https://www.msn.com/en-ca/sports/mlb/no-hard-feelings-blue-jays-gm-ross-atkins-hopes-to-put-stress-of-vlad-guerrero-jr-arbitration-hearing-behind-him/ar-BB1ilEpf?ocid=hpmsn&cvid=773c4536d4854f9ba86d100e94bb24ee&ei=20 " TAMPA, Fla. — As the Blue Jays were looking to win their arbitration case against Vlad Guerrero Jr., they may or may not have been surprised to see that the still young Blue Jays first baseman was in the room to hear the case against him. Awkward? Of course it was. Bad enough from a team perspective that they lost the case earlier this month when a panel of arbitrators ruled for the player forcing the Jays to send a record settlement of $19.9 million US Guerrero’s way for the 2024 season. ------------------------ more at link 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Long Posted February 16 Share Posted February 16 12 minutes ago, Gurn said: did you think the Vlad arbitration was a bad idea? Well it seems it was worse than you thought. https://www.msn.com/en-ca/sports/mlb/no-hard-feelings-blue-jays-gm-ross-atkins-hopes-to-put-stress-of-vlad-guerrero-jr-arbitration-hearing-behind-him/ar-BB1ilEpf?ocid=hpmsn&cvid=773c4536d4854f9ba86d100e94bb24ee&ei=20 " TAMPA, Fla. — As the Blue Jays were looking to win their arbitration case against Vlad Guerrero Jr., they may or may not have been surprised to see that the still young Blue Jays first baseman was in the room to hear the case against him. Awkward? Of course it was. Bad enough from a team perspective that they lost the case earlier this month when a panel of arbitrators ruled for the player forcing the Jays to send a record settlement of $19.9 million US Guerrero’s way for the 2024 season. ------------------------ more at link This seemed like a very dumb idea to me, unless I guess they know for sure Vladdy won't extend. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RupertKBD Posted February 16 Share Posted February 16 22 hours ago, Bob Long said: good point. Wells was kind of a unit tho, and not sure he ever got as big as Alek was last year. Not sure what he was thinking. Just watched a couple of interviews with Alek and he looks to be in much better shape. Apparently his wife is a certified nutritionist and between that and a gym regimen, he appears to have slimmed down considerably. (Although he's still a big dude) Of course, this doesn't necessarily mean an automatic improvement on the mound, but it's definitely a step in the right direction. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
runningback33 Posted February 16 Share Posted February 16 (edited) Whit Merrifield signed a 1 year 8 million with Phillies Edited February 16 by runningback33 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RupertKBD Posted February 16 Share Posted February 16 7 minutes ago, runningback33 said: Whit Merrifield signed a 1 year 8 million with Phillies Glad to see him land in the NL. Did not want to see him come back to the Rog and get 2 hits on a regular basis, while IKF goes 0-fer.... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
runningback33 Posted February 16 Share Posted February 16 Wonder where Chapman will end up, also Bellinger still yet to sign with a team Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gurn Posted February 16 Share Posted February 16 https://www.msn.com/en-ca/sports/mlb/blue-jays-agree-to-deal-with-veteran-escobar-adding-versatile-infielder/ar-BB1inE7C?ocid=msedgdhp&pc=U531&cvid=c7de7549b18b4e0dba87e432006e4899&ei=16 " DUNEDIN, Fla. — Former all-star Eduardo Escobar is the latest addition to the glut of infielders vying for playing time with the Toronto Blue Jays, signed to a minor-league deal Friday that gives him a chance to win a job with the club. The 35-year-old switch-hitter is a well-regarded veteran and teammate who has hit 20 or more home runs five times in 13 big-league seasons. But he’ll be looking to rebound with the Blue Jays after he batted .226/.269/.344 in 99 games between the New York Mets and Los Angeles Angels last season. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Long Posted February 16 Share Posted February 16 2 hours ago, runningback33 said: Whit Merrifield signed a 1 year 8 million with Phillies Good for him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
runningback33 Posted February 17 Share Posted February 17 https://www.tsn.ca/mlb/report-toronto-blue-jays-sign-slugger-dan-vogelbach-to-minor-league-deal-with-camp-invite-1.2077485 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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