jannick_handsome Posted December 9, 2023 Share Posted December 9, 2023 He gets to stay put and still be on the Pacific. Plus in LA he is just another star, and unrecognizable to non baseball fans. In Toronto he would be the biggest star in town and his privacy would be difficult to keep. Now when the Dogers play in Seattle we can go see Ohtani and not have to compete for tickets with all the BlueJay fans. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flickyoursedin Posted December 9, 2023 Share Posted December 9, 2023 Dang once looked at as favourites for Ohtani and Soto lol. Here’s hoping they spend some money and please not on Chapman his bat is so frustrating. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
5forFighting Posted December 9, 2023 Share Posted December 9, 2023 4 minutes ago, flickyoursedin said: Dang once looked at as favourites for Ohtani and Soto lol. Here’s hoping they spend some money and please not on Chapman his bat is so frustrating. Could land Bellinger (weeds legal in Canada). We had the unicorn for 1 day. Soto could be signed next off-season, maybe. I would like Belli and Soler plus someone to play 3rd. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
5forFighting Posted December 9, 2023 Share Posted December 9, 2023 6 minutes ago, jannick_handsome said: He gets to stay put and still be on the Pacific. Plus in LA he is just another star, and unrecognizable to non baseball fans. In Toronto he would be the biggest star in town and his privacy would be difficult to keep. Now when the Dogers play in Seattle we can go see Ohtani and not have to compete for tickets with all the BlueJay fans. He was never coming to Canada. It was likely all angling for more money from either the Angels, Dodgers or Giants. Dodgers give him the best chance to win now. He deferred money, so they can bring in players. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miss Korea Posted December 9, 2023 Share Posted December 9, 2023 16 minutes ago, nuckin_futz said: The free agent class is heavily tilted towards pitchers. They'd have to over pay to get Bellinger. 36 year old JD Martinez is out there as is 39 year old Justin Turner. Oddly enough Lourdes Gurriel Jr and Teoscar Hernandez are also free agents. Though they'd probably tell the Jays to piss off. With Shohei gone, this free agent class is hot trash. 13 minutes ago, King Heffy said: Might be able to bring them back if you fire Shatkins though, which needs to be done before these idiots waste Vladdy and Bo. Vladdy is starting to look wasted already, IMO. He is unhealthy and undisciplined. It's led to some really bad numbers and a lot of missed games due to poor fitness. Look at these whiff rates on fucking fastballs. He used to obliterate them. 4 minutes ago, Elias Pettersson said: $700 million USD can buy you alot of Sushi and Sapporo. In fact, he could probably buy the Vancouver Canucks. Wasn’t Nintendo the owner of the Mariners for awhile? Once Ichiro left Seattle (the first time), Nintendo got out of that as soon as they could. They still have a 10% stake in them. Good business. 3 minutes ago, flickyoursedin said: Dang once looked at as favourites for Ohtani and Soto lol. Here’s hoping they spend some money and please not on Chapman his bat is so frustrating. We were never favourites for Soto, and the Yankees paid a heavy price for him. Chapman's bat is indeed infuriating, but can you name a better 3B available right now? Nothing comes close. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Long Posted December 9, 2023 Share Posted December 9, 2023 2 minutes ago, Miss Korea said: With Shohei gone, this free agent class is hot trash. Vladdy is starting to look wasted already, IMO. He is unhealthy and undisciplined. It's led to some really bad numbers and a lot of missed games due to poor fitness. Look at these whiff rates on fucking fastballs. He used to obliterate them. Once Ichiro left Seattle (the first time), Nintendo got out of that as soon as they could. They still have a 10% stake in them. Good business. We were never favourites for Soto, and the Yankees paid a heavy price for him. Chapman's bat is indeed infuriating, but can you name a better 3B available right now? Nothing comes close. I'd love to see Chapman back, guys a stud 3B. Sure the bat is hot and cold but whatever, he's not really there to bat 5th. Well under most managers. Interesting to see what cooks on the trade front now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alflives Posted December 9, 2023 Share Posted December 9, 2023 Alf’s empties dominate again. Sho (me tones of money) Ohtani not going to the Jays. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miss Korea Posted December 9, 2023 Share Posted December 9, 2023 1 minute ago, Bob Long said: I'd love to see Chapman back, guys a stud 3B. Sure the bat is hot and cold but whatever, he's not really there to bat 5th. Well under most managers. Interesting to see what cooks on the trade front now. No, it won't be. The Blue Jays are in a massive rut with an underperforming squad that predictably crumbled in the playoffs. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Long Posted December 9, 2023 Share Posted December 9, 2023 1 minute ago, Miss Korea said: No, it won't be. The Blue Jays are in a massive rut with an underperforming squad that predictably crumbled in the playoffs. then blow er up 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miss Korea Posted December 9, 2023 Share Posted December 9, 2023 7 minutes ago, Bob Long said: then blow er up Not that either. They put too much money into renovations and marketing. The Jays are big business now. But they're also super mediocre despite the large payroll. They are likely going to do what I predicted in October: nothing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Long Posted December 9, 2023 Share Posted December 9, 2023 24 minutes ago, Miss Korea said: Not that either. They put too much money into renovations and marketing. The Jays are big business now. But they're also super mediocre despite the large payroll. They are likely going to do what I predicted in October: nothing. Tbh why not blow it up and rebuild quickly? Vladdy and Bo would fetch a ton. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wilbur Posted December 9, 2023 Share Posted December 9, 2023 1 hour ago, Bob Long said: Tbh why not blow it up and rebuild quickly? Vladdy and Bo would fetch a ton. Clean out the front office too. I have zero faith in Atkins and Shapiro turning this team into a contender. You can't win a championship in baseball winning 2-1 all the time. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Long Posted December 9, 2023 Share Posted December 9, 2023 Just now, Wilbur said: Clean out the front office too. I have zero faith in Atkins and Shapiro turning this team into a contender. You can't win a championship in baseball winning 2-1 all the time. I wonder now psychologically being a loser in the Ohtani bid, if the team can recover. Going for big game and losing is pretty demoralizing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Long Posted December 9, 2023 Share Posted December 9, 2023 I wonder if there's an actual good deal to be made with Anaheim now. They lost SO for nothing. Thats gotta hurt. Vladdy makes the most sense for them to go and overpay. So... is there an ANA package that would make sense for TO? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wilbur Posted December 10, 2023 Share Posted December 10, 2023 1 hour ago, Bob Long said: I wonder now psychologically being a loser in the Ohtani bid, if the team can recover. Going for big game and losing is pretty demoralizing. I have my doubts. This team cannot manufacture runs if its life depended on it. Soon the pitching will buckle under the weight of having to allow 1 run or less and we'll have a team that Bo can't get away from fast enough. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wilbur Posted December 10, 2023 Share Posted December 10, 2023 Apparently the Ohtani's contract involves deferred money to avoid the luxury tax....what is the point of having a luxury tax if you can just defer the money? What a joke. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pears Posted December 10, 2023 Share Posted December 10, 2023 LOL 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wilbur Posted December 10, 2023 Share Posted December 10, 2023 41 minutes ago, Pears said: LOL This just in. Jays counter offer with 800 million over 10 years. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Long Posted December 10, 2023 Share Posted December 10, 2023 2 minutes ago, Wilbur said: This just in. Jays counter offer with 800 million over 10 years. We can't match the sponsorship money he'll get in the US. We never stood a real chance. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the destroyer of worlds Posted December 10, 2023 Share Posted December 10, 2023 17 minutes ago, Wilbur said: This just in. Jays counter offer with 800 million over 10 years. Probably how the Dodgers got to $ 700 million. They saw thousands of people set to track a plane from LA to TO. They went, get his agent on the phone, we're adding a $ 100 million or so. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wilbur Posted December 10, 2023 Share Posted December 10, 2023 6 minutes ago, the destroyer of worlds said: Probably how the Dodgers got to $ 700 million. They saw thousands of people set to track a plane from LA to TO. They went, get his agent on the phone, we're adding a $ 100 million or so. Yep, Ohtani used the Jays to milk the Dodgers out of 200 more million. I used to be neutral to the Dodgers. They're just behind the Yankees now for teams I hate. 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RupertKBD Posted December 10, 2023 Share Posted December 10, 2023 It was expected, but it still stings.... If they can somehow swing Bellinger, I'll feel a lot better about this offseason, but right now it looks pretty bleak. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wilbur Posted December 10, 2023 Share Posted December 10, 2023 Dodgers must be still looking for a SS, I say trade Bo there....at least get assets out of LA instead of them giving up no assets except a dump truck full of money in 2 years. Trade Vladdy and Gausman to the Yankees too. Stack those teams so badly nobody outside of LA or NY will want to go to any games, then maybe MLB might come in with something to remedy the differences in spending....who am I kidding, they only care about those two markets anyway. I think we'd all agree the Orioles have a pretty good team....well, Ohtani's contract now pretty much equals the Baltimore Orioles entire payroll (not counting buyouts, etc of Chris Davis and a few others no longer on the roster). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shiznak Posted December 10, 2023 Share Posted December 10, 2023 A lot of tinfoil conspiracies theory out there on Twitter. Saying the Jays deal was actually a done deal, but Ohtani’s camp/MLB purposely leaked out false information in order to sabotage Ohtani’s chances to sign with the Jays. Forcing the Dodgers to make a final offer. There’s a theory out there that the MLB wanted no part of Ohtani going to Canada. Also Robert Herjavec, the guy on the plane that was suppose to carry Ohtani. Is actually a good friend with Ohtani’s agent. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super19 Posted December 10, 2023 Share Posted December 10, 2023 5 minutes ago, shiznak said: A lot of tinfoil conspiracies theory out there on Twitter. Saying the Jays deal was actually a done deal, but Ohtani’s camp/MLB purposely leaked out false information in order to sabotage Ohtani’s chances to sign with the Jays. Forcing the Dodgers to make a final offer. There’s a theory out there that the MLB wanted no part of Ohtani going to Canada. Also Robert Herjavec, the guy on the plane that was suppose to carry Ohtani. Is actually a good friend with Ohtani’s agent. Doesn't Ohtani still get the final say at the end of the day tho? So if he wanted to come here, he still could've despite what was leaked and what the MLB wants? Seeing Ohtani going from LA to LA is just blegh. If it wasn't the Blue Jays, would've love to see him anywhere out of LA (but no Yankees or Red Sox). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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