Bob Long Posted March 21 Share Posted March 21 16 minutes ago, UnkNuk said: Yep. Like, how does a translator get access to a player's bank account? Easy, he could make documents in English for Ohtani to sign that said all kinds of stuff. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
runningback33 Posted March 21 Share Posted March 21 (edited) . Edited March 22 by runningback33 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UnkNuk Posted March 21 Share Posted March 21 8 minutes ago, Bob Long said: Easy, he could make documents in English for Ohtani to sign that said all kinds of stuff. True. Or, come to think of it, maybe he invented a story (about a charity or a business deal) that required Ohtani to send the wire transfers. If Mizuhara did resort to such underhanded tactics, you have to think it's crushing for Ohtani. From the sounds of things, the two were very close friends. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miss Korea Posted March 21 Share Posted March 21 32 minutes ago, UnkNuk said: True. Or, come to think of it, maybe he invented a story (about a charity or a business deal) that required Ohtani to send the wire transfers. If Mizuhara did resort to such underhanded tactics, you have to think it's crushing for Ohtani. From the sounds of things, the two were very close friends. He and Ippei are very close friends. If Ohtani actively helped Ippei settle his gambling debt, it's a completely understandable thing to help a friend in deep shit. But one problem... it is also a federal crime to wire money to an illegal gambling ring. This is a potential reason why Ippei's story doesn't match with Shohei's claim of theft - the team is covering his tracks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UnkNuk Posted March 22 Share Posted March 22 (edited) 1 hour ago, Miss Korea said: He and Ippei are very close friends. If Ohtani actively helped Ippei settle his gambling debt, it's a completely understandable thing to help a friend in deep shit. But one problem... it is also a federal crime to wire money to an illegal gambling ring. This is a potential reason why Ippei's story doesn't match with Shohei's claim of theft - the team is covering his tracks. Ah! So Ohtani may have inadvertently broken the law while trying to help out a friend. And when he and the friend realize this, the friend changes his story to protect Ohtani. IF that turns out to be the case, how would MLB handle the situation? Not to mention the federal authorities. Should be fascinating to see how this all plays out. Edited March 22 by UnkNuk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Long Posted March 22 Share Posted March 22 15 minutes ago, UnkNuk said: Ah! So Ohtani may have inadvertently broken the law while trying to help out a friend. And when he and the friend realize this, the friend changes his story to protect Ohtani. IF that turns out to be the case, how would MLB handle the situation? Not to mention the federal authorities. Should be fascinating to see how this all plays out. MLB will 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the destroyer of worlds Posted March 22 Share Posted March 22 11 minutes ago, Bob Long said: MLB will Important player in his prime playing for a big money club. They are praying there isn't any evidence that proves Ohtani did anything illegal. If he did, you got it right. 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miss Korea Posted March 22 Share Posted March 22 2 hours ago, UnkNuk said: Ah! So Ohtani may have inadvertently broken the law while trying to help out a friend. And when he and the friend realize this, the friend changes his story to protect Ohtani. IF that turns out to be the case, how would MLB handle the situation? Not to mention the federal authorities. Should be fascinating to see how this all plays out. No no, Ippei's story makes Ohtani potentially liable. Ohtani's story is that Ippei just stole his money and did all of this by himself. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UnkNuk Posted March 22 Share Posted March 22 33 minutes ago, Miss Korea said: No no, Ippei's story makes Ohtani potentially liable. Ohtani's story is that Ippei just stole his money and did all of this by himself. Right. Or at least, Mizuhara's first story, on Tuesday, made Ohtani potentally liable. The next day, after Ohtani's people claimed that Mizuhara had stolen the money, Mizuhara changed his story and said Ohtani had nothing to do with the gambling or the transfer. Or so I read this except from the link I posted: "ESPN said it spoke to Mizuhara on Tuesday night, at which point the interpreter said Ohtani had paid his gambling debts at Mizuhara’s request. After the statement from Ohtani’s attorneys saying the player was a victim of theft, ESPN says Mizuhara changed his story Wednesday and claimed Ohtani had no knowledge of the gambling debts and had not transferred any money to bookmakers." https://www.nbclosangeles.com/news/sports/shohei-ohtanis-interpreter-accused-of-stealing-millions-from-the-dodgers-player/3368500/#:~:text=Interpreter Ippei Mizuhara%2C 39%2C was,during their season-opening win. So, it seems to me, Mizuhara may be taking responsibility for this entire affair either because he is actually responsible for this entire affair, or because he's acting as a friend by taking a bullet for Ohtani who did wire the money and/or because he's getting paid a whole lot of money to take a bullet for Ohtani. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RupertKBD Posted March 22 Share Posted March 22 (edited) 18 hours ago, Bob Long said: MLB will You bet your ass they will. Ohtani is by far the biggest name / story in baseball right now and MLB will not mess with that. Any sort of action taken against Ohtani right now would cause a bigger stir than when Clarence Campbell suspended Rocket Richard. Edited March 22 by RupertKBD Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Long Posted March 22 Share Posted March 22 33 minutes ago, RupertKBD said: You bet your ass they will. Ohtani is by far the biggest name / story in baseball right now and MLB will not mess with that. Any sort of action taken against Ohtani right now would cause a bigger stir than when Clarence Campbell suspended Rocket Richard. now if he had landed with the Jays.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RupertKBD Posted March 22 Share Posted March 22 17 minutes ago, Bob Long said: now if he had landed with the Jays.... ...all bets are off.....(pun intended) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Long Posted March 22 Share Posted March 22 47 minutes ago, RupertKBD said: ...all bets are off.....(pun intended) oh man, I just realized @Gawdzukes is going to think I'm a Jays conspiracy nut now too 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Gurn Posted March 23 Share Posted March 23 Escobar released; https://www.msn.com/en-ca/sports/mlb/eduardo-escobar-granted-release-by-toronto-blue-jays/ar-BB1knc3H?ocid=msedgdhp&pc=U531&cvid=fa4db10bfe1d4fabb8ffa4420bba9a15&ei=34 " Veteran infielder Eduardo Escobar has been granted his release from his minor-league contract with the Toronto Blue Jays and is now a free agent, the team announced Friday. Escobar was a late scratch from Toronto’s lineup on Friday, signalling that the release was coming. The Blue Jays signed Escobar to the minor-league deal on Feb. 16 with an invite to spring training. A 35-year-old switch hitter, Escobar posted a .411 OPS in 41 at-bats this spring, hitting one home run and striking out 17 times. He hit .226/.269/.344 in 2023, splitting time with the New York Mets and Los Angeles Angels. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
runningback33 Posted March 23 Share Posted March 23 Blue Jays Open the Season on Thursday with a 4 game series at TB then 3 at Astros, 3 at Yankees…then home opener against Seattle on the 8th of April 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miss Korea Posted March 23 Share Posted March 23 Don't be afraid boys - the Jays are gonna win it all this year. We got those pieces we needed to put us over the hump: 39-year old Justin Turner 40-year old Joey Votto Yankees legend Isiah Kiner-Falefa The Greek gods Eduardo Escobar and Dan Vogelbach - peak male standard! And of course, we know our team fitness didn't look great last season, but this time it'll be different! Trust me: Springer will stay healthy Vladdy will stay healthy/fit Alek Manoah will stay fit 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UnkNuk Posted March 23 Share Posted March 23 59 minutes ago, runningback33 said: Blue Jays Open the Season on Thursday with a 4 game series at TB then 3 at Astros, 3 at Yankees…then home opener against Seattle on the 8th of April That's nice. When do the Dodgers play? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Long Posted March 23 Share Posted March 23 1 hour ago, Miss Korea said: Don't be afraid boys - the Jays are gonna win it all this year. We got those pieces we needed to put us over the hump: 39-year old Justin Turner 40-year old Joey Votto Yankees legend Isiah Kiner-Falefa The Greek gods Eduardo Escobar and Dan Vogelbach - peak male standard! And of course, we know our team fitness didn't look great last season, but this time it'll be different! Trust me: Springer will stay healthy Vladdy will stay healthy/fit Alek Manoah will stay fit Dunno, some veteran bats in the playoffs would be a nice calming influence. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miss Korea Posted March 23 Share Posted March 23 5 minutes ago, Bob Long said: Dunno, some veteran bats in the playoffs would be a nice calming influence. If you're a real Jays fan, you'll know that the true challenge of any season (but especially this season) is to make out of the bloodbath that is the AL East. Let's just say we're a team of perennial underachievers bringing on a bunch of dinosaurs in the hopes they'll come back to form. We're hoping everyone on the roster comes back to form. That's some strategy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Long Posted March 24 Share Posted March 24 21 minutes ago, Miss Korea said: If you're a real Jays fan, you'll know that the true challenge of any season (but especially this season) is to make out of the bloodbath that is the AL East. Let's just say we're a team of perennial underachievers bringing on a bunch of dinosaurs in the hopes they'll come back to form. We're hoping everyone on the roster comes back to form. That's some strategy. I've watched the Jays from the beginning. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miss Korea Posted March 24 Share Posted March 24 1 minute ago, Bob Long said: I've watched the Jays from the beginning. I'm sure you have. No sarcasm. You tell me that after looking at Tampa, New York, and Baltimore, that we are the ones who will win the division. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Long Posted March 24 Share Posted March 24 17 minutes ago, Miss Korea said: I'm sure you have. No sarcasm. You tell me that after looking at Tampa, New York, and Baltimore, that we are the ones who will win the division. It all depends on the starting rotation. Jays will have to win a lot of 1 run games. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gurn Posted March 24 Share Posted March 24 Good thing there are so many games in a season. Manoah- out Bassitt - out Romano - out Jensen- out Swanson- out Kiermaier- bruised knee- but healthy to play? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nuckin_futz Posted March 24 Share Posted March 24 How is a guy earning $200k a year allowed to rack up a gambling debt of $4.5 million? That’s just laughable. This has to be Ohtani’s gambling debt. Doubt Commissioner Manfred has the guts to do anything apart from sweep this under the rug. If Commissioner Landis were still around and it was warranted he’d be banned for life. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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