Canucks164cup Posted May 24 Share Posted May 24 8 minutes ago, RupertKBD said: Fire this ump.... As if things aren't difficult enough for the ChiSox.....you make a call like that? Yeah that was bad just saw that on the score app feed, couldn't believe they called that interference when the SS shifted himself from his proper position and runner clearly had no idea where he was when heading back to the bag on a fly ball, just garbage call. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RupertKBD Posted May 24 Share Posted May 24 10 minutes ago, Canucks164cup said: Yeah that was bad just saw that on the score app feed, couldn't believe they called that interference when the SS shifted himself from his proper position and runner clearly had no idea where he was when heading back to the bag on a fly ball, just garbage call. Exactly....but what makes it even worse is the fact that the Infield Fly rule was applied.....meaning the shortstop didn't even have to catch it..... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canucks164cup Posted May 24 Share Posted May 24 (edited) 2 minutes ago, RupertKBD said: Exactly....but what makes it even worse is the fact that the Infield Fly rule was applied.....meaning the shortstop didn't even have to catch it..... I wonder if they would of called him out for trying to avoid the ss leaving the base path Overall horrible call. Edited May 24 by Canucks164cup Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canucks164cup Posted May 24 Share Posted May 24 Just saw this on the score feed. @RupertKBD Report: White Sox told interference call was wrong Major League Baseball contacted the Chicago White Sox on Friday to notify the club that Thursday's game-ending interference call shouldn't have been made, sources told ESPN's Jesse Rogers. The controversial call was made by third base umpire Junior Valentine against White Sox slugger Andrew Vaughn with Orioles shortstop Gunnar Henderson attempting to catch an infield fly. The decision sealed Baltimore's 8-6 victory, as Vaughn, the runner on second at the time, was called out on the play. MLB rule 6.01(a) states a baserunner can be ruled out for hindering a fielder's ability to make a play, even if it's accidental. Determining what classifies as interference is up to the umpire. "There doesn't have to actually even be contact. If (the runner) hinders the fielder in the attempt to field a batted ball, intent is not required and it's interference," Valentine said postgame, per MLB.com's Scott Merkin. White Sox manager Pedro Grifol expressed frustration with the rule itself rather than with Valentine for enforcing it. “Their shortstop had plenty of time to catch the baseball, and then if you want to talk about the runner, well, how does he know what the fielder is doing behind him?" he said postgame. "(Vaughn) didn’t make contact on purpose. He wasn’t trying to impede Gunnar from catching the fly ball. He wasn’t doing that." Vaughn echoed his manager's confusion. “I was reading the play, saw the popup, know it was an infield fly. Read it, started shuffling back, and he kind of breezed by me on the right side. And then, yeah, he made the play and the umpire called me out," he said. The White Sox have not protested the result of the game. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UnkNuk Posted May 24 Share Posted May 24 On the other hand, it is the White Sox so they probably would have lost anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Heffy Posted May 25 Share Posted May 25 6 hours ago, Canucks164cup said: Just saw this on the score feed. @RupertKBD Report: White Sox told interference call was wrong Major League Baseball contacted the Chicago White Sox on Friday to notify the club that Thursday's game-ending interference call shouldn't have been made, sources told ESPN's Jesse Rogers. The controversial call was made by third base umpire Junior Valentine against White Sox slugger Andrew Vaughn with Orioles shortstop Gunnar Henderson attempting to catch an infield fly. The decision sealed Baltimore's 8-6 victory, as Vaughn, the runner on second at the time, was called out on the play. MLB rule 6.01(a) states a baserunner can be ruled out for hindering a fielder's ability to make a play, even if it's accidental. Determining what classifies as interference is up to the umpire. "There doesn't have to actually even be contact. If (the runner) hinders the fielder in the attempt to field a batted ball, intent is not required and it's interference," Valentine said postgame, per MLB.com's Scott Merkin. White Sox manager Pedro Grifol expressed frustration with the rule itself rather than with Valentine for enforcing it. “Their shortstop had plenty of time to catch the baseball, and then if you want to talk about the runner, well, how does he know what the fielder is doing behind him?" he said postgame. "(Vaughn) didn’t make contact on purpose. He wasn’t trying to impede Gunnar from catching the fly ball. He wasn’t doing that." Vaughn echoed his manager's confusion. “I was reading the play, saw the popup, know it was an infield fly. Read it, started shuffling back, and he kind of breezed by me on the right side. And then, yeah, he made the play and the umpire called me out," he said. The White Sox have not protested the result of the game. I at least respect MLB admitting the umps got it wrong. The NHL can't even reach that kind of accountability. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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runningback33 Posted May 25 Share Posted May 25 1 run in a 2-1 loss Today at Detroit Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RupertKBD Posted May 25 Share Posted May 25 Yet another solid pitching performance wasted due to the Jays pop gun offense.... It's easy to point at Bo and Vladdy and say they have to be better, (and they do) but it goes deeper than that.... The top of the Dodgers order is dangerous because not only are they all great hitters, they provide protection for each other. Mookie gets pitches to hit, because opposing pitchers don't want to risk putting him on with Shohei and Freddie coming up.... Nobody is afraid of any of the Jays hitters right now, so pitchers will continue to nibble around the corners and try and get them to chase borderline "pitcher's" pitches. (Valddy especially, is well known for expanding his strike zone, because he feels like he has to carry the team) This dismal season is completely on management for believing this lineup was good enough offensively to win ball games. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pears Posted May 26 Share Posted May 26 This is one of the most infuriatingly inconsistent teams I've ever seen. Can't hit worth shit when the starter is throwing a gem but will turn around and go toe to toe the next game if the starter is getting lit up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
runningback33 Posted May 26 Share Posted May 26 14-11 loss Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rip The Mesh Posted May 26 Share Posted May 26 This season is just looking worse and worse. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
runningback33 Posted May 26 Share Posted May 26 Atleast we play the White Sox next Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nuckin_futz Posted May 26 Share Posted May 26 Ruomors running wild Schneider will be forced to walk the plank. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
runningback33 Posted May 26 Share Posted May 26 1 hour ago, nuckin_futz said: Ruomors running wild Schneider will be forced to walk the plank. Shapiro, Atkins, Walker and Mattingly should all be gone with him 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bounce000 Posted May 26 Author Share Posted May 26 I want heads to roll, like a Blue Jays Red Wedding. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gurn Posted May 26 Share Posted May 26 1 hour ago, nuckin_futz said: Ruomors running wild Schneider will be forced to walk the plank. Hope he isn't the only one. Any firing should lead to a commitment to rebuild. Sell what they can, and start over. I would not be surprised to find that some players/agents have already told management to 'feel free' to move them. Older dudes watching their career crater, must be pissed. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alflives Posted May 26 Share Posted May 26 3 minutes ago, Gurn said: Hope he isn't the only one. Any firing should lead to a commitment to rebuild. Sell what they can, and start over. I would not be surprised to find that some players/agents have already told management to 'feel free' to move them. Older dudes watching their career crater, must be pissed. Trade some of the big bopping bats for young arms. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wilbur Posted May 26 Share Posted May 26 3 minutes ago, Alflives said: Trade some of the big bopping bats for young arms. But we don't have any, that's the problem 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alflives Posted May 26 Share Posted May 26 Just now, Wilbur said: But we don't have any, that's the problem Vlade would get a lot of interest. The Jays had arms back in 92 snd 93. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gurn Posted May 26 Share Posted May 26 2 minutes ago, Alflives said: Trade some of the big bopping bats for young arms. youth is the key. Time to decide on Bo and Vladdy. Sell one, but does that get enough return, to turn around the organization? Which one? Who gets more return? Sell both? Might need to 'package up' some low performers with Bo/Vlad in order to clear up some deadweight. first get a credible baseball mind in charge, to make these kind of decisions-- then getter dun! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alflives Posted May 26 Share Posted May 26 2 minutes ago, Gurn said: youth is the key. Time to decide on Bo and Vladdy. Sell one, but does that get enough return, to turn around the organization? Which one? Who gets more return? Sell both? Might need to 'package up' some low performers with Bo/Vlad in order to clear up some deadweight. first get a credible baseball mind in charge, to make these kind of decisions-- then getter dun! It’s been 30 years since the Jays were a top club. I remember listening to games on the radio in the late 80’s and 90’s. The excitement around the club was great. But the club had pitching. They need pitching. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Heffy Posted May 27 Share Posted May 27 19 hours ago, Alflives said: Vlade would get a lot of interest. The Jays had arms back in 92 snd 93. The Jays in 92 and 93 were also offensive juggernauts. Pitching was good but wasn't the main strength of those teams, especially the 93 version. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alflives Posted May 27 Share Posted May 27 1 minute ago, King Heffy said: The Jays in 92 and 93 were also offensive juggernauts. Pitching was good but wasn't the main strength of those teams, especially the 93 version. When the Jays got to the 8th with a lead the game was over. They had an excellent rotation too. You’re right about the bats. They were great club back then. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Heffy Posted May 27 Share Posted May 27 2 minutes ago, Alflives said: When the Jays got to the 8th with a lead the game was over. They had an excellent rotation too. You’re right about the bats. They were great club back then. 92 pitching, yes. 93 had Hentgen, Guzman, Stewart in the rotation who were good. A washed up Jack Morris and Todd Stottlemyre couldn't post winning records even with those bats, and Henke had left meaning only Ward in the 9th was automatic. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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