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11 hours ago, Down By the River said:

 

To be fair to Schneider, it was impossible to see this coming...

 

Oh wait:

 

 

You’ll be a fool if you think Schneider wasn’t going to start Gausman game 1. Regardless, of how well the Twins have hit Gausman, in the past.
 

He’s their Ace. That’s why they signed him. 

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3 hours ago, shiznak said:

You’ll be a fool if you think Schneider wasn’t going to start Gausman game 1. Regardless, of how well the Twins have hit Gausman, in the past.
 

He’s their Ace. That’s why they signed him. 

 

There is a difference between not starting your Ace and not having a game plan for your Ace so that the same thing doesn't happen all over again. 

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4 hours ago, shiznak said:

You’ll be a fool if you think Schneider wasn’t going to start Gausman game 1. Regardless, of how well the Twins have hit Gausman, in the past.
 

He’s their Ace. That’s why they signed him. 

It's a similar situation to why AV gave Schneider a start against Chicago in 2011, and should have again for Game 6 against Boston.  Sadly, Schneider is not experienced or intelligent enough to make those kind of decisions.

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5 hours ago, shiznak said:

You’ll be a fool if you think Schneider wasn’t going to start Gausman game 1. Regardless, of how well the Twins have hit Gausman, in the past.
 

He’s their Ace. That’s why they signed him. 

 

Yep. And even though he gave up the two dingers, the Twins only scored three runs.....

 

It was the hitting (again) that let the Jays down yesterday.

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2 hours ago, RupertKBD said:

 

Yep. And even though he gave up the two dingers, the Twins only scored three runs.....

 

It was the hitting (again) that let the Jays down yesterday.

Bit of a disingenuous argument. Twins scored three runs in Gausman's 4IP. Gausman walked 3 and threw 73 pitches. He had a WHIP that was 33% higher than his season average and obviously struggled. 

 

The Jays ultimately lost because of their hitting... but they've been losing games all year because of their hitting, nobody should be surprised by that. It is not surprising that Gausman got the start. What is surprising (but perhaps it shouldn't be, given this team) is that Gausman's outing went exactly the way his past outings against the Twins went. 

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6 hours ago, Down By the River said:

 

There is a difference between not starting your Ace and not having a game plan for your Ace so that the same thing doesn't happen all over again. 

That’s what Pete Walker is for. 
 

It isn’t Schneider’s job to have a game plan for his pitchers. It’s the pitching coaches’ job.

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54 minutes ago, shiznak said:

That’s what Pete Walker is for. 
 

It isn’t Schneider’s job to have a game plan for his pitchers. It’s the pitching coaches’ job.

 

Manager names the starter, no? It's Walker's job to come up with a game plan, it's Schneider's job to vet things. Ultimately, it is part of a larger failure of this Jays team to have any sort of identity. 

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6 minutes ago, nuckin_futz said:

Still can’t believe Schneider pulled Berrios there. What a foolish move. And then Vladdy caught napping to end the threat. 
 

Not even upset if it means major changes are coming. 

If blowing an 8-1 lead in a do or die game at home wasn't a fireable offence then this has to be. Literally inexcusable to pull your pitcher when he's dominating like Berrios was. 

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