IBatch Posted November 24, 2023 Share Posted November 24, 2023 On 10/23/2023 at 10:50 AM, canucks curse said: We have imo 3-4 top 4 D in system Hirose willander D. EP mcward we should use 2025 1st and some of our excess wingers to target another top 4 D we also have some organization depth in net with tilipio and silovs Some Combination of Klimovich, Karlsson, podkolzin, Hogz, 2025 1st, silovs Garland, should be able to nab a top 4 D man That's very bullish. Like saying Stetcher was a top four D, just because we had to play him as one. Of that group, the only blue chip is Willander. The rest likely depth guys, 7-8's, who might end up playing games, best case maybe bottom pairing that like Stecther, can move up a bit as needed. Think Brisbois as a more likely career path. He'd probably be on the team right now if he wasn't injured - and his role is exactly that, injury replacement. Agree we should be looking to trade for a legitimate top four. Teams likely willing to do that are bad ones looking to rebuild. We could also just wait for Bear. Even then we'd need to make a trade and shed cap. Would be over once Soucy is back. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post IBatch Posted November 24, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted November 24, 2023 (edited) 16 hours ago, Slegr said: I would take a pass on Bear, even with our significant injury bug on defense right now. Even as a depth guy, he just doesn’t seem like a good fit with the direction of the group. Bears fine. A much better option then what we've got available right now, and won't cost the farm. It's bad luck both Wolanin and Brisbois are out ... but our right side is so thin after Hronek and Myers. Depth is what he'd be, and this year anyways, both an upgrade on a healthy roster, and a big upgrade on the farm. It will depend on what he signs for to a degree, league min would be awesome for the club. It could also give him a chance to prove he's worth more than that in the off-season, and his injury is fully healed. Edited November 24, 2023 by IBatch 3 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Provost Posted November 24, 2023 Share Posted November 24, 2023 (edited) It should also be noted that Vancouver is a connection hub for lots of destinations. I think he lives in the Okanagan so could have literally been going anywhere to start skating even on his own or with some college or junior team to ramp up his fitness. Edited November 24, 2023 by Provost 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boziffous Posted November 24, 2023 Share Posted November 24, 2023 15 hours ago, VegasCanuck said: Not sure who you've been watching, he's been pretty effective overall. He skates well, hits well and considering he was just watching from the press box for awhile, I think he's been improving in general every game. Not saying he's the second coming of Bobby Orr or anything, but for the most part, he's been pretty solid for 775k. TSN shows him as -6, but I think that's an error. If you look at his game log, last night was the first time he has been on the negative side of +/- since Sept 24th, preseason in Calgary. Link: https://www.tsn.ca/nhl/player/noah-juulsen/106631 The -6 is correct. The error is with the game logs on TSN. They even show Juulsen as a +1 in the game against Philly when they shut us out 2-0. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coconuts Posted November 24, 2023 Share Posted November 24, 2023 (edited) 35 minutes ago, Provost said: It should also be noted that Vancouver is a connection hub for lots of destinations. I think he lives in the Okanagan so could have literally been going anywhere to start skating even on his own or with some college or junior team to ramp up his fitness. So what you're saying is Bear back to Edmonton so he can save their defense e5 Edited November 24, 2023 by Coconuts 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Heffy Posted November 24, 2023 Share Posted November 24, 2023 1 minute ago, Coconuts said: So what you're saying is Bear back to Edmonton e5 No way he goes back there given the racist trash those bigots spewed at him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coconuts Posted November 24, 2023 Share Posted November 24, 2023 Just now, King Heffy said: No way he goes back there given the racist trash those bigots spewed at him. I like to think the e5 indicated that I wasn't being serious 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Heffy Posted November 24, 2023 Share Posted November 24, 2023 Just now, Coconuts said: I like to think the e5 indicated that I wasn't being serious I figured that much, although he'd be on the top pairing there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coconuts Posted November 24, 2023 Share Posted November 24, 2023 2 minutes ago, King Heffy said: I figured that much, although he'd be on the top pairing there. Probs, they're a mess Be interesting to see where he ends up, I haven't really read anything about him being linked to other teams If he's willing to sign cheap I imagine there'd be at least one or two other teams interested Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Provost Posted November 30, 2023 Share Posted November 30, 2023 I don’t actually know the full rules regarding signing players by Dec 1st or not being eligible. I think it is just unsigned RFAs and not UFAs. That is really the only pinch point Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tas Posted November 30, 2023 Share Posted November 30, 2023 8 hours ago, Provost said: I don’t actually know the full rules regarding signing players by Dec 1st or not being eligible. I think it is just unsigned RFAs and not UFAs. That is really the only pinch point and then what's the rule about clearing waivers when they join the team? that's only if they were playing overseas beyond a certain date, righf!? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Popular Post DeNiro Posted December 7, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted December 7, 2023 8 minutes ago, CRAZY_4_NAZZY said: We’re not in a position to overpay for a 6/7 defenseman. Better to save that cap space until the deadline where it’s more valuable. 1 1 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Déjà Vu Posted December 7, 2023 Share Posted December 7, 2023 Report: Interested teams now allowed to watch Ethan Bear skate; will try to outbid Canucks So leafs will probably try and put in a bid for him 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Provost Posted December 7, 2023 Share Posted December 7, 2023 1 hour ago, DeNiro said: We’re not in a position to overpay for a 6/7 defenseman. Better to save that cap space until the deadline where it’s more valuable. Lots of teams with injuries on D. This is a guy to get on a pro-rated deal under $1.5 million for the rest of the season. Anything more than that and let the Leafs use their Klingberg LTIR space on a 3rd pairing guy. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rick_theRyper Posted December 7, 2023 Share Posted December 7, 2023 Let not get in a bidding war for Bear, we have McWard and Juulsen. Unless they can move Myers I just don't see the point. Do the sit 6M in the press box or waive Myers? When the D is Healthy; Hughes Hronek Soucy Cole Zadorov Myers I don't see it happening unless the trade Myers. But then Bear better stay healthy or we all of a sudden have 1 NHL RHD Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VegasCanuck Posted December 7, 2023 Share Posted December 7, 2023 3 minutes ago, Rick_theRyper said: Let not get in a bidding war for Bear, we have McWard and Juulsen. Unless they can move Myers I just don't see the point. Do the sit 6M in the press box or waive Myers? When the D is Healthy; Hughes Hronek Soucy Cole Zadorov Myers I don't see it happening unless the trade Myers. But then Bear better stay healthy or we all of a sudden have 1 NHL RHD Could waive Myers and based on how he's been playing the last week, send him to Abbotsford for a few days... Assuming we sign Bear on a prorated contract of say about 1.2 million for the rest of the season, we'd actually come out ahead... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Long Posted December 7, 2023 Share Posted December 7, 2023 Treliving won't be able to help himself. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhillipBlunt Posted December 7, 2023 Share Posted December 7, 2023 Would the Stars be interested in trading for Hakanpaa? He'd be a great add for fairly cheap. Hughes - Hronek Zadorov - Hakanpaa Soucy - Cole/Bear Gets another known bruiser on the blueline. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HKSR Posted December 7, 2023 Share Posted December 7, 2023 35 minutes ago, Rick_theRyper said: Let not get in a bidding war for Bear, we have McWard and Juulsen. Unless they can move Myers I just don't see the point. Do the sit 6M in the press box or waive Myers? When the D is Healthy; Hughes Hronek Soucy Cole Zadorov Myers I don't see it happening unless the trade Myers. But then Bear better stay healthy or we all of a sudden have 1 NHL RHD Yeah, definitely don't get into a bidding war over Bear. That'd be like getting into a bidding war over a Toyota Corolla. 1 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aGENT Posted December 8, 2023 Share Posted December 8, 2023 3 hours ago, Provost said: Lots of teams with injuries on D. This is a guy to get on a pro-rated deal under $1.5 million for the rest of the season. Anything more than that and let the Leafs use their Klingberg LTIR space on a 3rd pairing guy. Yup. Happy to have him back at $1.5m +/-, prorated. But have zero desire to get in to a bidding war over him. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rekker Posted December 8, 2023 Share Posted December 8, 2023 3 hours ago, Rick_theRyper said: Let not get in a bidding war for Bear, we have McWard and Juulsen. Unless they can move Myers I just don't see the point. Do the sit 6M in the press box or waive Myers? When the D is Healthy; Hughes Hronek Soucy Cole Zadorov Myers I don't see it happening unless the trade Myers. But then Bear better stay healthy or we all of a sudden have 1 NHL RHD I actually think McWard would be a legit good partner for Zads Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devron Posted December 8, 2023 Share Posted December 8, 2023 Nobodies bidding on him. He’s not getting a bunch of money. 1 million max Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alflives Posted December 8, 2023 Share Posted December 8, 2023 5 hours ago, DeNiro said: We’re not in a position to overpay for a 6/7 defenseman. Better to save that cap space until the deadline where it’s more valuable. Yup. We already have Myers, who is a better #6 D man than Bear. We need another top 4 D man. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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