WHL rocks Posted December 13, 2023 Share Posted December 13, 2023 On 12/11/2023 at 11:59 AM, Jaimito said: I love listening to Donny and Dhaliwal I've watched Donny since he was on sports page around 3 or decades ago. Dhaliwal same thing he's been around a long time. I think they work really well together. Good show. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JayDangles Posted December 13, 2023 Share Posted December 13, 2023 2 hours ago, aGENT said: I wouldn't trade our 1st for Tanev either Something "reasonable"? Sure. Otherwise I think we can add him this summer (UFA) anyway. Same goes for my Jensen suggestion FWIW. I'm looking forward to a 3rd line later this year/next year of Podz, Suter, Hoglander myself Still think that "ideally" we add another guy in the top 6 though. In no scenario should we give up a 1st for a player like tanev( injured again?). He is a good player and would fit the space nicely, but we should give up long term assets for a short term player. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Long Posted December 13, 2023 Share Posted December 13, 2023 1 hour ago, aGENT said: I like my idea of involving a 3rd team. We retain $2m and clear $4m, 3rd team also retains $2m (minimal ~150K-$200K of actual cash depending when the trade happens, closer to TDL) for a mid pick (4th?), team he's going to get him for $2m (prorated). That, plus the ~$500K space we have basically covers Tanev. Why not just send Myers to Cowtown 2 mil retained with a 4th? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aGENT Posted December 13, 2023 Share Posted December 13, 2023 21 minutes ago, Bob Long said: Why not just send Myers to Cowtown 2 mil retained with a 4th? I don't think they want him, or the cap coming back. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Long Posted December 13, 2023 Share Posted December 13, 2023 1 hour ago, aGENT said: I don't think they want him, or the cap coming back. I wonder... Truculence and stuff. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
conquestofbaguettes Posted December 13, 2023 Share Posted December 13, 2023 1 hour ago, aGENT said: I don't think they want him, or the cap coming back. Lest we forget Myers has a 10 team no trade. Odds are good Calgary is on it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aGENT Posted December 13, 2023 Share Posted December 13, 2023 8 minutes ago, conquestofbaguettes said: Lest we forget Myers has a 10 team no trade. Odds are good Calgary is on it. Maybe not. Lives in the Okanagan in the offseason. If not here, the next closest teams are Calgary, Edmonton and Seattle. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
conquestofbaguettes Posted December 13, 2023 Share Posted December 13, 2023 1 minute ago, aGENT said: Maybe not. Lives in the Okanagan in the offseason. If not here, the next closest teams are Calgary, Edmonton and Seattle. Possible. But one of the dirty secrets in the league is apparently many players with no trades have Canadian cities on them. Is Myers one of them? An outlier to the norm? Who knows. Wouldn't surprise me though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aGENT Posted December 13, 2023 Share Posted December 13, 2023 28 minutes ago, conquestofbaguettes said: Possible. But one of the dirty secrets in the league is apparently many players with no trades have Canadian cities on them. Is Myers one of them? An outlier to the norm? Who knows. Wouldn't surprise me though. He signed as a UFA in Canada and lives here... 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
conquestofbaguettes Posted December 13, 2023 Share Posted December 13, 2023 Just now, aGENT said: He signed as a UFA in Canada and lives here... And may or may not have Calgary on his list. Just because a player lives in X town in the off-season doesn't neccessarily mean anything. Lots of guys live in Kelowna in the offseason. Including Ethan Bear and Luke Schenn. Let's not assume anything is all I'm saying. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeremy Hronek Posted December 13, 2023 Share Posted December 13, 2023 7 hours ago, aGENT said: @Jeremy Hronek? Jensen would be 'ok' I guess but I don't think he'd really move the needle much. Would be a nice depth piece in case of injuries but with Juulsen playing much better lately, it seems like we already have that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aGENT Posted December 13, 2023 Share Posted December 13, 2023 6 minutes ago, Jeremy Hronek said: Jensen would be 'ok' I guess but I don't think he'd really move the needle much. Would be a nice depth piece in case of injuries but with Juulsen playing much better lately, it seems like we already have that. Jensen is a fair bit better than Juulsen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeremy Hronek Posted December 13, 2023 Share Posted December 13, 2023 40 minutes ago, aGENT said: Jensen is a fair bit better than Juulsen. True but he's also a fair bit more expensive than Juulsen as well ($4.05 million dollar cap hit). So essentially, you'd have Hughes-Hronek Cole-Zadorov Soucy-[Jensen/Myers] As your defense with one of Jensen or Myers being the 7th man under a fully healthy roster. I get that depth is important, and that having all of your defenseman healthy is a rarity, but that seems like too much of an over-allocation of resources to me (i.e. paying $4.05M for a 7th defenseman.......or 6 million if Myers would be your #7). Once Soucy comes back from injury, the Canucks will be up against the cap anyways so would they even be able to afford Jensen? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alflives Posted December 13, 2023 Share Posted December 13, 2023 Bear isn’t a guy we are interested in. Nice guy though so hope he gets a fair contract somewhere. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
N4ZZY Posted December 13, 2023 Share Posted December 13, 2023 Bear got himself a good contract with Washington. Canucks just couldn't afford him. But the team still needs 1 more top 4 RHD, and 1 top six forward. Which needs comes first this season? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aGENT Posted December 13, 2023 Share Posted December 13, 2023 8 hours ago, Jeremy Hronek said: True but he's also a fair bit more expensive than Juulsen as well ($4.05 million dollar cap hit). So essentially, you'd have Hughes-Hronek Cole-Zadorov Soucy-[Jensen/Myers] As your defense with one of Jensen or Myers being the 7th man under a fully healthy roster. I get that depth is important, and that having all of your defenseman healthy is a rarity, but that seems like too much of an over-allocation of resources to me (i.e. paying $4.05M for a 7th defenseman.......or 6 million if Myers would be your #7). Once Soucy comes back from injury, the Canucks will be up against the cap anyways so would they even be able to afford Jensen? No, I'm assuming we retain $2m and move Myers. Hughes, Hronek/Jensen Zadorov, Hronek/Jensen Soucy, Cole 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alflives Posted December 13, 2023 Share Posted December 13, 2023 6 hours ago, N4ZZY said: Bear got himself a good contract with Washington. Canucks just couldn't afford him. But the team still needs 1 more top 4 RHD, and 1 top six forward. Which needs comes first this season? Bear is a small player who is easy to play against. Look at the size of the guys on our second and third pairings. IMHAO we were not interested in Bear because he can’t fill the role we expect in those spots. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeremy Hronek Posted December 13, 2023 Share Posted December 13, 2023 1 hour ago, aGENT said: No, I'm assuming we retain $2m and move Myers. Hughes, Hronek/Jensen Zadorov, Hronek/Jensen Soucy, Cole It could work in that case. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Long Posted December 13, 2023 Share Posted December 13, 2023 1 hour ago, Alflives said: Bear is a small player who is easy to play against. Look at the size of the guys on our second and third pairings. IMHAO we were not interested in Bear because he can’t fill the role we expect in those spots. Imo the plan for Bear was always as a filler role to be able to dump . Now that the coaches have got the best out of him and Juulson the urgency isn't there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nucker67 Posted December 13, 2023 Share Posted December 13, 2023 1 hour ago, Alflives said: Bear is a small player who is easy to play against. Look at the size of the guys on our second and third pairings. IMHAO we were not interested in Bear because he can’t fill the role we expect in those spots. He's also coming off a long-term injury/recovery, too risky. I'd prefer to have Juulsen and his crushing hits Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrJockitch Posted December 13, 2023 Share Posted December 13, 2023 1 hour ago, Alflives said: Bear is a small player who is easy to play against. Look at the size of the guys on our second and third pairings. IMHAO we were not interested in Bear because he can’t fill the role we expect in those spots. Quinn is a small player that is easy to play against of a;; we are thinking about is physicality. But, when you move the puck BEFORE contact is initiated size doesn’t really matter so much. That is where Quinn is amazing, Stetcher was quietly efficient, Tanev is an ace and Bear is solid. A pairing of whatever works between Cole/Zad/Soucy and Bear would have been more balanced than any second pair we can put out now. Bear as an established puck mover who can get the puck and move it before they get pinned down while one of the big lugs is there as backup for the time he can’t. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aGENT Posted December 13, 2023 Share Posted December 13, 2023 (edited) 6 hours ago, Bob Long said: Imo the plan for Bear was always as a filler role to be able to dump . Now that the coaches have got the best out of him and Juulson the urgency isn't there. It also would mean we'd need to clear cap/move SOON. Now we can take our time up to the TDL when more teams would be interested in him anyway. Edited December 13, 2023 by aGENT 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhillipBlunt Posted December 13, 2023 Share Posted December 13, 2023 Still no announcement from the Virginia Capitals? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bure_Pavel Posted December 13, 2023 Share Posted December 13, 2023 54 minutes ago, PhillipBlunt said: Still no announcement from the Virginia Capitals? A sweepstakes this big, they probably going all out on the announcement. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhillipBlunt Posted December 13, 2023 Share Posted December 13, 2023 2 minutes ago, Bure_Pavel said: A sweepstakes this big, they probably going all out on the announcement. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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