PhillipBlunt Posted December 11, 2023 Share Posted December 11, 2023 30 minutes ago, Coconuts said: He was a likeable enough guy and maybe he'd be an improvement on some of our 5-8D but I'm indifferent as to him going elsewhere Can't blame a guy for looking for a better opportunity, NHL careers can be short for bottom pairing D, gotta grab on to the best opportunities you can For sure. Strike while the iron is hot. Get the best deal you can for yourself. Seeing how much earlier some players are retiring, it's a wise choice to set yourself up well. Must be nice for Ethan to be coming off of injury and seeing suitors line up for him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blitz-Pix Posted December 11, 2023 Share Posted December 11, 2023 (edited) I'm fine with Bear signing elsewhere... I wasn't a huge fan to begin with. He was fine as a player and plays a desriable position (RD) but his game didn't move the needle much, for me. He was probably a little over rated playing on a piss poor defensive team last year but our improved D probably make him a 5th or 7th dman when we're healty. I'd be OK with it if we were able to get something done in the $1-$1.5 million range for the remainder of the year but didn't want to sign him to a multi year contract and block out some of our developing players on cheaper contracts. I'm hopeful one of Willander, Hunter, D-Petey or someone from Abby will make the jump for next season. I think we just need a stop gap this year not a player with term...unless it's 1 year and the player has no trade protection, that we're able to move next year...if needed, Edited December 11, 2023 by Blitz-Pix 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhillipBlunt Posted December 11, 2023 Share Posted December 11, 2023 2 minutes ago, Coconuts said: Dude just wants to slum dunk in the US 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhillipBlunt Posted December 11, 2023 Share Posted December 11, 2023 49 minutes ago, DrJockitch said: Making an assumption based on the number of people here that state they don’t want him. Because of the state of the defense. It's vastly improved, and requires a player above Bear's paygrade to complete it. 49 minutes ago, DrJockitch said: Quality puck mover does not equal offensive threat. Chris Tanev is a great picture of the modern puck moving defender. Not sure what the second sentence there even means. Never said it did. 49 minutes ago, DrJockitch said: He is free asset. He costs nothing to acquire other than cap. That isn’t a hard concept or sentence to grasp. Free - without cost or payment. 49 minutes ago, DrJockitch said: He was out first pairing right D last year and by far the best RD we had. I didn’t say we should get into a bidding war just that it makes sense that a few teams are interested in filling the hardest position to fill without giving up assets in a trade. We don’t have that much cap to bid so it is pretty much here is the cap we have, take it or leave it. Bear has talent and will most likely sign with the Caps. He just doesn't factor as heavily into plans here as Alvin has different needs for his d-corps than Washington does. The spot that Bear would most likely fill, is not vacant here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mando27 Posted December 11, 2023 Share Posted December 11, 2023 Wish bear all the best, I for one am glad the Canucks are not getting involved in a bidding war for him though. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
24K Posted December 11, 2023 Share Posted December 11, 2023 My guess us Bear is getting a long term contract with Cap like 3 years or so. Otherwise it seem it is better for his career having a real chance to play with Hughes if only short term deals are on the table. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Rusty Shackleford Posted December 11, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted December 11, 2023 Can't blame Bear for going with more money/term. Family security is more important than winning games. That being said, come on down, Adam Larsson! 2 1 3 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Long Posted December 11, 2023 Share Posted December 11, 2023 9 minutes ago, Rusty Shackleford said: Can't blame Bear for going with more money/term. Family security is more important than winning games. That being said, come on down, Adam Larsson! I'm happy for him, seems like a good guy. He took himself out of a deal here with that injury and it is what it is. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4petesake Posted December 11, 2023 Share Posted December 11, 2023 Bear might be signing on in a place that loses its appetite to support the team. https://www.reddit.com/r/caps/s/Z2AWdvFclz Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeNiro Posted December 11, 2023 Share Posted December 11, 2023 (edited) What did we trade for him again? Yea we can find another player of his caliber. We need to address the top 4 not the 6/7 spot. Edited December 11, 2023 by DeNiro 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sophomore Jinx Posted December 11, 2023 Share Posted December 11, 2023 21 hours ago, Alflives said: Did someone say Kuznetsov? *Bless You* Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrJockitch Posted December 11, 2023 Share Posted December 11, 2023 44 minutes ago, PhillipBlunt said: Because of the state of the defense. It's vastly improved, and requires a player above Bear's paygrade to complete it. Never said it did. Free - without cost or payment. Bear has talent and will most likely sign with the Caps. He just doesn't factor as heavily into plans here as Alvin has different needs for his d-corps than Washington does. The spot that Bear would most likely fill, is not vacant here. Disagree on last sentence. Bear would be a significant improvement on the right side of either the second or third pair. Especially since we have some left handers that he would fit with well. We have some size but not great PMDs after the first pairing. We have spent a lot of time hemmed on our ends for long periods because of an inability to move the puck well from the blue line. Don’t think we are going to get him and wouldn’t offer him a lot of money or term but he is a quality player that is available to a club at the cost of no assets other than cap space. Shouldn’t be hard to see why there is interest. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tank Posted December 11, 2023 Share Posted December 11, 2023 3rx2.5 mil 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goal_thecup Posted December 11, 2023 Share Posted December 11, 2023 1 year show-me deal for league minimum or go hibernate Bear. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dizzle Posted December 11, 2023 Share Posted December 11, 2023 1 hour ago, Rekker said: . JB would of inked Bear to a 4 x 4 already. You just triggered my Post Benning Stress Disorder…. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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PhillipBlunt Posted December 11, 2023 Share Posted December 11, 2023 1 minute ago, DrJockitch said: Disagree on last sentence. Bear would be a significant improvement on the right side of either the second or third pair. Especially since we have some left handers that he would fit with well. Based on what Alvin has already done, I think he'd be aiming to trade for (or sign at FA time) a legitimate second pairing RHD rather than looking to put a #5-6 RHD in the spot. 1 minute ago, DrJockitch said: We have some size but not great PMDs after the first pairing. Tocchet doesn't seem averse to splitting up Hughes and Hronek to spread out the offense. 1 minute ago, DrJockitch said: We have spent a lot of time hemmed on our ends for long periods because of an inability to move the puck well from the blue line. The d-men have admitted to straying from the structure they were excelling with earlier in the season. Losing Soucy, had an effect. 1 minute ago, DrJockitch said: Don’t think we are going to get him and wouldn’t offer him a lot of money or term but he is a quality player that is available to a club at the cost of no assets other than cap space. Shouldn’t be hard to see why there is interest. And I'm glad for Bear. Must be great coming to the end of your rehabilitation and seeing teams line up with offers. I do think Alvin had a specific amount in mind that he wasn't willing to waver from, as he's got his sights set on possibly making another trade for a Larsson or similar type player. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nucker67 Posted December 11, 2023 Share Posted December 11, 2023 Sounds like the Canucks are out on Bear, but might bring Chatfield back? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Duke Posted December 11, 2023 Share Posted December 11, 2023 Sounds like we were aiming for a 1x1 and the Capitals are willing to give term, and likely a little more cash to land him. The 1x1 was exactly why I was hoping we’d land him, and he’d be a nice upgrade on our 6RD situation for the season. Ah well. Juulen playing better lately takes the sting off, although the extra 3-4 minutes a night Bear can handle will be missed. Hopefully when Soucy comes back we stay healthy and it’ll all be moot anyways. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaimito Posted December 11, 2023 Share Posted December 11, 2023 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gawdzukes Posted December 11, 2023 Share Posted December 11, 2023 Nice. Totally okay news today. Bear sucks defensively. I'm so glad we didn't sign this guy to the contract he's going to get. Would have been a massive mistake to give him term with how tight our cap is going to be. We need every single penny moving forward. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rekker Posted December 11, 2023 Share Posted December 11, 2023 36 minutes ago, Dizzle said: You just triggered my Post Benning Stress Disorder…. There should be a special category under BC Medical Services Plan for that for us Canucks fans, lol. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Combover Posted December 11, 2023 Share Posted December 11, 2023 Would he nice to add bear as cheap depth but I won’t be disappointed if he gets over paid and signs elsewhere. jewls has been playing just fine and he brings more physicality to the back end the more he plays the more he’s settling in. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diamonds Posted December 11, 2023 Share Posted December 11, 2023 4 hours ago, 4petesake said: Bear might be signing on in a place that loses its appetite to support the team. https://www.reddit.com/r/caps/s/Z2AWdvFclz Moving across the river to Northern Virginia really isn't much of a change. Fairfax County plus Arlington and Alexandria is still around 1.5 million people. Also I believe the proposed site already has a metro stop connecting it to DC proper. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diamonds Posted December 11, 2023 Share Posted December 11, 2023 I agree with most saying we shouldn't be entering a bidding war for Bear. I liked him last season, and would have liked him back for cheap, but he doesn't majorly move the needle and is certainly not worth overpaying for. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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