Serious injury to Podkolzin

[Elias Pettersson]

19 minutes ago, Gawdzukes said:

I was going to say I've seen a couple of these and both times they recovered quite quickly. I see Pods is up and smiling. That's great news.  Best wishes Pods

 

The first Rathbone hit was pretty bad.  He was stretchered off the ice as well.  I believe he was back within a month...

[King Heffy]

6 hours ago, Tusk said:

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Out of respect for the mods here, I'm not going to post what I'd like to say to you right now.

[RWJC]

6 hours ago, Tusk said:

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WTF are you even talking about?

 

[RWJC]

6 hours ago, Tusk said:

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I have a grand handy…

[Lemon Face]

1 hour ago, Honkin Hronek said:

Sounds like some good news. 
 

Also, I hope you like the attention you’re getting, Tusk. I hope you get just a slimmer of satisfaction from the disgusting shit you’re saying, because that’s despicable. 

Podz uploaded photo on twitter.looks like doing ok

[RWJC]

6 hours ago, Tusk said:

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Tough is one thing. Finishing checks with an intent to injure is another and is bullshit, and you know that.

You’re defending a guy who obviously intentionally meant to hurt his man by the aforementioned style and follow through of the hit.

 

The problem in this regard isn’t the Nux needing to be tougher. It’s people defending this kind of shit as though the game consists of a bunch on Neanderthals on skates.
 

If that’s how you view the sport then perhaps you need to check your status on the evolutionary tree.

Wake up dude, you’re so far off on this with your takes, and the subsequent reaction to them…it should be an indicator that the impetus for your argument is flawed and totally incoherent. 

Maybe you like heat and coming off as heel…at some point though enough people will just ignore you and then you’re meaningless to this board. Just a heads up.

[Odd.]

Heard about it on the radio. Glad he’s okay. 

Couldn’t help but think about his newborn and family. Man he’s a kid himself. Speedy recovery Podz!

[Odd.]

Wtf is Tusk on about. 

[Ghostsof1915]

44 minutes ago, Odd. said:

Wtf is Tusk on about. ?

Fixed.

[Biff Tannen]

6 hours ago, RWJC said:

I have a grand handy…

 

6 hours ago, Tusk said:

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You did though. Also if someone says you can have something for $1000 and your response is to offer $5000, you might want to stop getting hit in the head.

 

[sashimi]

4 hours ago, Tusk said:

 

Geez lady, that was a clean hit. We need some stuff like this up in the real team. I have been hit by someone 5 times bigger than me and the results are in. Skill only works when you aint scared of that 240 lbs guy coming your way.

Canucks are sadly short of the big guys. Boston, 2011

You're an idiot. In no world is that a clean hit. Even if the hit itself was clean, it would still be interference. But sticking out your leg to trip a guy and throw him to the ice isn't a clean hit. Get your fucking head checked you absolute moron Neanderthal.

[sashimi]

For anyone that was worried about the severity of the head injury due to the convulsions... It's most likely that Podz had concussive convulsions. Basically, this happens rarely with concussions but isn't indicative of a more severe brain injury or complications other than the concussion itself. Hopefully Podz is able to make a quick recovery without any lasting symptoms. 

 

From the National Library of Medicine:

 

"Concussive convulsions are characterized by myoclonic or tonic–clonic motor convulsions that occur within seconds of head injury. They are thought to occur in the absence of epileptic brain activity. Initially described in adults by Jennet2 as “immediate epilepsy” — defined explicitly as the occurrence of a generalized convulsion “within moments of injury” — the phenomenon was found to have no association with the development of subsequent seizures.2

 

Much of what has since been learned about concussive convulsions is derived from observational studies involving elite adult Australian rules football and rugby league players, where the reported incidence of concussive convulsions is about 1 in every 70 cases of concussion.3 In a retrospective study, McCrory and colleagues4 detailed the cases of 22 adult football players with concussive convulsions. Within two seconds of head impact, the athletes typically displayed a loss of consciousness and brief tonic phase, followed by bilateral myoclonic or clonic jerking of the extremities lasting no longer than 150 seconds. Following the event, patients showed clinical symptoms consistent with sports-related concussion. All players underwent neuroimaging studies with normal results. Twenty-one players underwent electroencephalography (EEG), which was normal in all cases, with the exception of one player who showed transient left temporal slow wave activity in the period directly after injury and in whom EEG studies were normal in follow-up at one week and two years. All of the athletes returned to full sporting activities, and none experienced recurrent seizures. The authors postulated that concussive convulsions were not caused by structural brain injury and the pathophysiological mechanisms governing posttraumatic seizures, but were instead likely mediated by transient functional decerebration similar to the corticomedullary dissociation seen in convulsive syncope.3,4

 

Since these seminal studies, a subsequent prospective study involving Australian footballers found that more subtle motor manifestations, particularly tonic posturing without clonic movements, occurred in almost a quarter of sports-related concussions, likely representing a less extreme form of the concussive convulsion phenomenon with an equally benign outcome.5

 

Current practice recommendations suggest that neuroimaging and EEG studies have normal results in this patient population3 and should only be used to rule out structural brain injury if other clinical indications are present, such as focal neurologic deficit or altered level of consciousness. 1 The prognosis of this condition is excellent, and antiepileptic medication is not required. Patients who have concussive convulsions can be safely returned to full sporting activities after documented recovery from the associated concussion."

Edited October 26, 2023 by sashimi

[Bob Long]

3 hours ago, Odd. said:

Wtf is Tusk on about. 

 

Seems to really want someone to punch him in the head for some reason.

 

[Rob Eh]

5 hours ago, Tusk said:

for a thousand canadian dollars I would let you punch me in the head as hard as you can. But I bet I could raise 20,000 by canadians not wanting you to hurt someone.

Are you Canadian?

[EliPeterson40]

6 hours ago, Tusk said:

I guess I had so many haters I was not able to reply.

I emailed AJ and seems like I have access again.

 

Personally, I would take a hit like that for $750.000 per year, and every year. At least I could afford season tickets.

You’re human garbage 

[Rob Eh]

4 hours ago, Odd. said:

Wtf is Tusk on about. 

He's an American blow hard.

[Rob Eh]

5 hours ago, Tusk said:

for a thousand canadian dollars I would let you punch me in the head as hard as you can. But I bet I could raise 20,000 by canadians not wanting you to hurt someone.

 

5 hours ago, Tusk said:

the problem is I didnt even get any takers for $1000 for a punch in the head, no questions.

If we were in texas the bidding would start at 5 grand.

 

You talk pretty tough from there.......and behind your screen.

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7 hours ago, Tusk said:

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You talk a big game. How about balancing it out with some empathy. Using someone's potentially serious injury to prove how tough you are is weak. As weak as it comes. Very immature take so I hope you're young and can still learn. It's time to read the room and find another topic to participate in at this point. Not sure why you're still able to reply, but that will change if this persists. 

 

Thing is, with head injuries sometimes the initial diagnosis is good but it's long term effects that come into play. Podz is in the prime of his life, as a new Dad with a bright future. I hope this doesn't impact it. 

 

And the guy who took him down should be addressed. I'm not sure it was "an accident". I'm also not saying it was dirty or intentional but that should be decided after a good, hard look at how it went down.

 

Speedy recovery, Podz!

 

 

 

 

[Rob Eh]

@Tusk Is a soft as toilet drapes, that's why everything he says stinks.

He admitted he's an American blow hard too.

[DrJockitch]

3 hours ago, sashimi said:

For anyone that was worried about the severity of the head injury due to the convulsions... It's most likely that Podz had concussive convulsions. Basically, this happens rarely with concussions but isn't indicative of a more severe brain injury or complications other than the concussion itself. Hopefully Podz is able to make a quick recovery without any lasting symptoms. 

 

From the National Library of Medicine:

 

"Concussive convulsions are characterized by myoclonic or tonic–clonic motor convulsions that occur within seconds of head injury. They are thought to occur in the absence of epileptic brain activity. Initially described in adults by Jennet2 as “immediate epilepsy” — defined explicitly as the occurrence of a generalized convulsion “within moments of injury” — the phenomenon was found to have no association with the development of subsequent seizures.2

 

Much of what has since been learned about concussive convulsions is derived from observational studies involving elite adult Australian rules football and rugby league players, where the reported incidence of concussive convulsions is about 1 in every 70 cases of concussion.3 In a retrospective study, McCrory and colleagues4 detailed the cases of 22 adult football players with concussive convulsions. Within two seconds of head impact, the athletes typically displayed a loss of consciousness and brief tonic phase, followed by bilateral myoclonic or clonic jerking of the extremities lasting no longer than 150 seconds. Following the event, patients showed clinical symptoms consistent with sports-related concussion. All players underwent neuroimaging studies with normal results. Twenty-one players underwent electroencephalography (EEG), which was normal in all cases, with the exception of one player who showed transient left temporal slow wave activity in the period directly after injury and in whom EEG studies were normal in follow-up at one week and two years. All of the athletes returned to full sporting activities, and none experienced recurrent seizures. The authors postulated that concussive convulsions were not caused by structural brain injury and the pathophysiological mechanisms governing posttraumatic seizures, but were instead likely mediated by transient functional decerebration similar to the corticomedullary dissociation seen in convulsive syncope.3,4

 

Since these seminal studies, a subsequent prospective study involving Australian footballers found that more subtle motor manifestations, particularly tonic posturing without clonic movements, occurred in almost a quarter of sports-related concussions, likely representing a less extreme form of the concussive convulsion phenomenon with an equally benign outcome.5

 

Current practice recommendations suggest that neuroimaging and EEG studies have normal results in this patient population3 and should only be used to rule out structural brain injury if other clinical indications are present, such as focal neurologic deficit or altered level of consciousness. 1 The prognosis of this condition is excellent, and antiepileptic medication is not required. Patients who have concussive convulsions can be safely returned to full sporting activities after documented recovery from the associated concussion."

I will post something here just because of the medical question.

 

This is mostly pretty accurate.  Post traumatic seizure like this is very scary and dramatic when it happens but in isolation (as highlighted as lacking altered LOC or other neurological deficits) is not necessarily a bad indicator.  There are much worse after a head injury such as vomiting and persistent confusion.  They provided the interesting comparison of compulsive syncope, that is when someone gets up to quickly, faints and has seizure like activity.  I remember as shithead kids hyperventilating and then blocking carotids to stimulate that type of thing.

Thought the last paragraph was interesting in that it concludes that lacking other signs not to do neuroimaging or EEG.  Given the mechanism of injury, being thrown onto his head on the ice with his neck flexed, I definitely would have scanned both head and C-spine if I was the emergency doctor.  This also runs into a very interesting area in medical ethics where the team and athlete often have different goals than what an emergency department would.  

For now they would appear to just need to treat this like a concussion.  The seizure doesn't even indicate necessarily that it is a bad concussion.

Good luck to Podz and his family, seems like a genuinely good young man.

[Mackcanuck]

Get well soon Podz! 

Can't believe and am disappointed in what our resident neanderthal is posting

 

[Bob Long]

Hopefully we get news of him being discharged today and then back on the ice once he's 100%. No need to rush him whatsoever.

[Bob Long]

2 minutes ago, Mackcanuck said:

Get well soon Podz! 

Can't believe and am disappointed in what our resident neanderthal is posting

 

 

[OldFaithfulcap]

Get better podz

[Rob Eh]

We don't need any American opinions about our game.