Johngould21 Posted October 28, 2023 Share Posted October 28, 2023 7 minutes ago, aGENT said: Who knows? I didn't think Detroit would move Hronek (still don't understand why in fact lol). Detroit has basically gifted us our top pair in fact With him being hurt when they acquired him, I really didn't expect to see this from Hronek. Do they play the two of them together for the entire season? As it stands now, yes. This is the first time we've had two legit top 2 defensemen on this roster. Even better than any pairing on the Gillis teams, Pat Quinns' teams, and Roger Neilson's team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aGENT Posted October 28, 2023 Share Posted October 28, 2023 Just now, Johngould21 said: With him being hurt when they acquired him, I really didn't expect to see this from Hronek. Do they play the two of them together for the entire season? As it stands now, yes. This is the first time we've had two legit top 2 defensemen on this roster. Even better than any pairing on the Gillis teams, Pat Quinns' teams, and Roger Neilson's team. I mean ideally you get another guy to play with Hughes and let Hronek anchor the 2nd pair... Just not sure if we'll be able to find that guy mid season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Long Posted October 28, 2023 Share Posted October 28, 2023 Just now, aGENT said: I mean ideally you get another guy to play with Hughes and let Hronek anchor the 2nd pair... Just not sure if we'll be able to find that guy mid season. Is it ideal? Having a potentially elite top pair, and average bottom pairs can work fine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johngould21 Posted October 28, 2023 Share Posted October 28, 2023 Just now, aGENT said: I mean ideally you get another guy to play with Hughes and let Hronek anchor the 2nd pair... Just not sure if we'll be able to find that guy mid season. I think that's what the Canuck coaching staff would like, but, hey let's run with this while they're on a run. The two of them seem to be so synched up right now. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nucker67 Posted October 28, 2023 Share Posted October 28, 2023 Most dominant game from the Canucks I can remember. It wasn't just Demko stopping pucks, the team D was great. STL couldn't get anything going, Canucks were all over them in an instant, and then stealing the puck to create more plays. Shit, Binnington played well in the first, score should've been 8-0. But after that 2nd one he let in, you could see the confidence leave his body. Friedman was a really good pickup. That play to stop the scoring chance, and not taking a penalty. D has always been an issue, and now we have Hughes-Hronek - best in the league Does Blueger replace Hoglander when he gets healthy? 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gawdzukes Posted October 28, 2023 Share Posted October 28, 2023 5 minutes ago, Nucker67 said: Most dominant game from the Canucks I can remember. It wasn't just Demko stopping pucks, the team D was great. STL couldn't get anything going, Canucks were all over them in an instant, and then stealing the puck to create more plays. Shit, Binnington played well in the first, score should've been 8-0. But after that 2nd one he let in, you could see the confidence leave his body. Friedman was a really good pickup. That play to stop the scoring chance, and not taking a penalty. D has always been an issue, and now we have Hughes-Hronek - best in the league Does Blueger replace Hoglander when he gets healthy? I think Blueger is probably the better player so I would say yes. Once he gets into game shape that is. They could also push Lafferty to to the wing and sit Beauvillier instead. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Optimist Prime Posted October 28, 2023 Share Posted October 28, 2023 23 minutes ago, Johngould21 said: With him being hurt when they acquired him, I really didn't expect to see this from Hronek. Do they play the two of them together for the entire season? As it stands now, yes. This is the first time we've had two legit top 2 defensemen on this roster. Even better than any pairing on the Gillis teams, Pat Quinns' teams, and Roger Neilson's team. If we had a Sami Salo to pair with either of them, mwah, chef's kiss. in fact, Hughes, Sami, Jovocop, Hronek would be a dream for 48 minutes a game. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nucker67 Posted October 28, 2023 Share Posted October 28, 2023 4 minutes ago, Gawdzukes said: I think Blueger is probably the better player so I would say yes. Once he gets into game shape that is. They could also push Lafferty to to the wing and sit Beauvillier instead. Lafferty has been really good too, nice speed and grit. Beauvillier was trying hard all game to get that 1st goal. They should eventually come if he keeps up the effort. I thought Garland played a good game, he was feisty and doing his spin-o-ramas along the boards, frustrating opponents. I still think they need to make a trade though, solidify the team to make that run. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aGENT Posted October 28, 2023 Share Posted October 28, 2023 17 minutes ago, Bob Long said: Is it ideal? Having a potentially elite top pair, and average bottom pairs can work fine. They can still play together situationally. But yes, it is ideal being able to have one of those guys out there for ~25 minutes each (~50 total) of a 60 minute game vs having both of them out there for ~25 minutes together of a 60 minute game. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
5forFighting Posted October 28, 2023 Share Posted October 28, 2023 19 minutes ago, Bob Long said: Is it ideal? Having a potentially elite top pair, and average bottom pairs can work fine. I wouldn't move Hronek off that pairing until Hughes comes and says it isn't working because right now the kids is the front runner for the Norris. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Long Posted October 28, 2023 Share Posted October 28, 2023 1 minute ago, aGENT said: They can still play together situationally. But yes, it is ideal being able to have one of those guys out there for ~25 minutes each (~50 total) of a 60 minute game vs having both of them out there for ~25 minutes together of a 60 minute game. dunno. Elite talent is the real separator in the NHL, imo. We've seen single elite top lines e.g., carry teams a long way. I think when you can have something special you go for it. 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Optimist Prime Posted October 28, 2023 Share Posted October 28, 2023 I know I am getting three or so years into the future, but I wonder what Elias Deffensserson will add to this mix when the time is right? 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nucker67 Posted October 28, 2023 Share Posted October 28, 2023 1 minute ago, Optimist Prime said: I know I am getting three or so years into the future, but I wonder what Elias Deffensserson will add to this mix when the time is right? Hughes - Willander Pettersson - Hronek 2 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PAVEL_BURE10 Posted October 28, 2023 Share Posted October 28, 2023 Damn, missed last nights game and turned out to be a good one. Hope they have a good one tonight. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Optimist Prime Posted October 28, 2023 Share Posted October 28, 2023 1 minute ago, Nucker67 said: Hughes - Willander Pettersson - Hronek This from his draft year understates his o-zone abilities. He has 7 points in 4 games in the J20, 7 points in 8 games in the All Svenskan playing against men and now four games in the SHL so far this year, mind you yet to tally in the top Swedish men's league. he is just 19 still. Quote There is something to be said for a reliable shut down Defenseman, and we felt that Pettersson distinguished himself enough in theis regard to warrant consideration in the middle of our board. You don't get 17 games with an SHL club like Orebro HK if you can't keep things honest in your own zone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barnstorm Posted October 28, 2023 Share Posted October 28, 2023 7 minutes ago, Optimist Prime said: I know I am getting three or so years into the future, but I wonder what Elias Deffensserson will add to this mix when the time is right? That there is funny! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aGENT Posted October 28, 2023 Share Posted October 28, 2023 1 minute ago, Bob Long said: dunno. Elite talent is the real separator in the NHL, imo. We've seen single elite top lines e.g., carry teams a long way. I think when you can have something special you go for it. First things first... We need to acquire the missing guy before we need to worry about splitting them up or not. Right now we don't really have a better option. If say for whatever reason Carolina struggles and Pesce becomes available (unlikely, I know), are you still going to keep Hughes and Hronek together if we added him? And even then, at least you've got options. Yup might keep them together and run Cole-Pesce... But I'd be REAL tempted to see Hughes-Pesce, Cole-Hronek personally... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Optimist Prime Posted October 28, 2023 Share Posted October 28, 2023 9 minutes ago, Nucker67 said: Hughes - Willander Pettersson - Hronek For whatever reason I put WIllander out of my mind for four seasons, the NCAA thing...but yeah, a right hand shot 11th overall who can skate skate skate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Long Posted October 28, 2023 Share Posted October 28, 2023 1 minute ago, aGENT said: First things first... We need to acquire the missing guy before we need to worry about splitting them up or not. Right now we don't really have a better option. If say for whatever reason Carolina struggles and Pesce becomes available (unlikely, I know), are you still going to keep Hughes and Hronek together if we added him? And even then, at least you've got options. Yup might keep them together and run Cole-Pesce... But I'd be REAL tempted to see Hughes-Pesce, Cole-Hronek personally... actually I would. H-H is just so dominant that yep I'd make teams face that nightmare every game. Cole-Pesce would be an awesome 2nd pair, particularly after teams had to game plan H-H first. Then a solid bargain like Soucy-Willander next year. Oh boy. I'd be very happy to welcome Tanev back to end his career here. Maybe 2 years 3.5 mil? something like that. Bring Cole back for one more too. H-H Cole-Tanev Soucy-Willander/Friedman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Optimist Prime Posted October 28, 2023 Share Posted October 28, 2023 1 minute ago, Bob Long said: actually I would. H-H is just so dominant that yep I'd make teams face that nightmare every game. Cole-Pesce would be an awesome 2nd pair, particularly after teams had to game plan H-H first. Then a solid bargain like Soucy-Willander next year. Oh boy. I'd be very happy to welcome Tanev back to end his career here. Maybe 2 years 3.5 mil? something like that. Bring Cole back for one more too. H-H Cole-Tanev Soucy-Willander/Friedman Pass on Tanev for me. 13 points last year, zero this year through a disastrous opening 8 games for the lames. We are already 2 years south of Peak Tanev and my guess is he doesn't get any better at 34 years old than he is at 33 years old. I considered him expendable too when he was no longer a Canuck i didn't mind so much, hindsight being 20/20: he had that one year where he scored more than 2 goals in 21-22, that was his career year. Pass. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eddie Posted October 28, 2023 Share Posted October 28, 2023 What a game - i'll never get bored of watching us ventilate old Binners and the blues ! Phil DeGretzy is he Burrows in disguise. Making a real impact on the Miller line, what a find ! Huggy - wow ! What a captain and what a player, just gets better every year. I also love how we now have a captain that sets the standard and shows up every game showing that raw desires to win. Something i never felt Bo did - far too many times when the chips were down, you barely knew he was on ice, and he was almost never the one to make the difference when we really needed a spark, specially from our captain. And I'm far from a Bo hater ! The Petey line is really starting to click now Mykhead is back. The other Pacific teams are really sucking right now - time to really drive the advantage home. See if we can get something against NYR on the back to back tonight. Gonna be a tough game but belief is high for the first time since 2019. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goal_thecup Posted October 28, 2023 Share Posted October 28, 2023 (edited) 1 hour ago, Nucker67 said: Hughes - Willander Pettersson Deffensserson - Hronek FTFY Credit @Optimist Prime for the renaming. Edited October 28, 2023 by Goal_thecup 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aGENT Posted October 28, 2023 Share Posted October 28, 2023 (edited) 7 minutes ago, Bob Long said: actually I would. H-H is just so dominant that yep I'd make teams face that nightmare every game. Cole-Pesce would be an awesome 2nd pair, particularly after teams had to game plan H-H first. Then a solid bargain like Soucy-Willander next year. Oh boy. I'd be very happy to welcome Tanev back to end his career here. Maybe 2 years 3.5 mil? something like that. Bring Cole back for one more too. H-H Cole-Tanev Soucy-Willander/Friedman I'm hoping we go for Zadorov in the summer (as good as Cole has been). Next year: Hughes, Hronek/new guy Zadorov, Hronek/new guy Soucy, Willander/Bear (or similar)... maybe Friedman Edited October 28, 2023 by aGENT Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Long Posted October 28, 2023 Share Posted October 28, 2023 2 minutes ago, Optimist Prime said: Pass on Tanev for me. 13 points last year, zero this year through a disastrous opening 8 games for the lames. We are already 2 years south of Peak Tanev and my guess is he doesn't get any better at 34 years old than he is at 33 years old. I considered him expendable too when he was no longer a Canuck i didn't mind so much, hindsight being 20/20: he had that one year where he scored more than 2 goals in 21-22, that was his career year. Pass. OK Pesce then Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Long Posted October 28, 2023 Share Posted October 28, 2023 Just now, aGENT said: I'm hoping we go for Zadorov in the summer (as good as Cole has been). Next year: Hughes, Hronek/new guy Zadorov, Hronek/new guy Soucy, Willander/Bear (or similar) H-H Z-Pesce Soucy-Willander/Bear Hirose-Freidman thats a pretty nice group of 8 right there for next year. And actually possible if we can move Garland, since new Beau and Myers will be gone. Probably quite tight cap wise, I haven't done the math but I suspect something close to this is possible. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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