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17 minutes ago, Alflives said:

Guys on 650 saying it would be great if we could get Tom Wilson. They mentioned some silly idea to get Seth Jones too. Yuk to that one. But Tom Wilson would be awesome. 

 

huh. Is that based in anything or were they just spitballing? 

 

Moving Jones would make a lot of sense for CHI's rebuild. They'd have to retain for us to do it. 

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5 minutes ago, Olli Juolevi said:

 

IIRC Tocc and Kessel got along very well in Pittsburgh, didn't they? Seems like an unlikely pair but I think that was the case. Didn't Kessel agree to waive his NTC in Pitt to go to Arizona because he liked Tocc?

 

Goes further than that too

 

https://www.nhl.com/news/phil-kessel-rick-tocchet-reunite-with-coyotes-after-trade-from-penguin-308132784

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1 minute ago, Bob Long said:

 

huh. Is that based in anything or were they just spitballing? 

 

Moving Jones would make a lot of sense for CHI's rebuild. They'd have to retain for us to do it. 

It also means Quinn and Hronek's next contracts would be more in line with what Jones is making now at a cap hit of $9.5 million and that's scary.  Jones is not the upgrade on Myers some think he would be and Chicago would be over the moon during their rebuild to be able to move that cap while then being able to eat up assets from us and other teams needing to move cap for the year

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1 minute ago, Bob Long said:

 

huh. Is that based in anything or were they just spitballing? 

 

Moving Jones would make a lot of sense for CHI's rebuild. They'd have to retain for us to do it. 

I think they’re just suggesting stuff because of the Dhaliwal comment. 
Imagine is we could add Tanev and Wilson. That’s making us even better. 

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35 minutes ago, MeanSeanBean said:

Reward the players? Bring Dad home. Tanev would be a massive boost to the moral of the team and the performance on the ice.

 

35 minutes ago, Alflives said:

That’s the guy we should bring back. 

 

30 minutes ago, canucks curse said:

Tanev would be great in the room as well, I think he would also help Hughes (not that he needs it) but on a personal level with leadership 

 


 

 

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1 minute ago, Seventy7 said:

…meaning our 2024 1st round pick is gonna be moved as that is the only good asset available.  So moving salary in Garland/Beauvillier + 1st for ???

That's pretty even right there for me; it would take something like our 1st to move those 2.

Just to be clear, there is no way I want to move our first round picks.

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1 minute ago, Warhippy said:

It also means Quinn and Hronek's next contracts would be more in line with what Jones is making now at a cap hit of $9.5 million and that's scary.  Jones is not the upgrade on Myers some think he would be and Chicago would be over the moon during their rebuild to be able to move that cap while then being able to eat up assets from us and other teams needing to move cap for the year

 

if CHI were willing to eat some percentage to get it into the low 7's maybe? but then they have dead cap still remaining in 3-4 years when they are ready to make a run with Bedard (assuming it all works out).

 

Dunno. Wilson would be great but can't see him waiving to come here. 

 

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20 minutes ago, Coconuts said:

Why would the Caps move Tom Wilson given they just gave him a 6.5Mx7 extension? Won't even kick in til next season. 

 

Tom has a M-NTC, so I suspect that he wouldn't be interested in Van.  Besides he was drafted by the

Caps and will likely retire as a Cap.

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Just now, higgyfan said:

 

Tom has a M-NTC, so I suspect that he wouldn't be interested in Van.  Besides he was drafted by the

Caps and will likely retire as a Cap.

 

Particularly given he also won a cup in Washington. He's won his cup, secured his bag, and has roots in Washington. Now he can ride off into the sunset and help Ovi chase the goals record. 

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1 hour ago, Pears said:

So who's the Leonard Williams calibre player we're targeting? 👀👀

Trying to learn what kind of player we're talkin', got this from the Hawks website:

Seahawks Adding "A Rare Player" In Leonard Williams

When it comes to building a championship-caliber roster in the NFL, one of the hardest pieces to find is an elite interior defensive lineman.

Lots more in the spoiler:

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Seahawks Adding "A Rare Player" In Leonard Williams

Seahawks coach Pete Carroll discussed the team’s acquisition of defensive end Leonard Wiliams after agreeing to terms on a trade with the Giants Monday.

Oct 30, 2023 at 05:12 PM
 

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New York Giants defensive end Leonard Williams (99) takes the field during an NFL football game against the Philadelphia Eagles, Sunday, Nov. 28, 2021, in East Rutherford, N.J. (AP Photo/Adam Hunger)

When it comes to building a championship-caliber roster in the NFL, one of the hardest pieces to find is an elite interior defensive lineman.

Those players who possess the rare combination of size and athletic ability to wreak havoc in the trenches tend to go very early in drafts, then command large salaries if and when they hit free agency. The Seahawks haven't been able to draft those types of players because, thanks to their sustained success under Pete Carroll and John Schneider, they have rarely picked in the top half of the first round in their 14 drafts together.

So given a chance to add a Pro-Bowl defensive lineman via trade, the Seahawks pulled the trigger on a deal with the Giants on Monday, agreeing to terms on a trade that will send a 2024 second-round pick and a 2025 fifth-round pick to New York in exchange for veteran defensive end Leonard Williams.

It's the kind of move that shows the Seahawks, who moved into first place in the NFC West with Sunday's win over the Browns, believe they are championship contenders this season.

"We're competing," Carroll said. "That's what we always say and tell you, that's really what this is about; just trying to get better and trying to help our team. This is one of the late opportunities to do something like that. John (Schneider) did a beautiful job of figuring it out and how to work it and pick out the guy that really fits and can be a part of this team. I'm really excited for our guys to get to know Leonard and see who he is and what he's all about. His competitiveness is very similar to the guys we have in this program and he's going to fit in great."

A second-round pick is a significant asset for Seattle to give up in a trade, but it's one the Seahawks see as being worthwhile to add a player who Carroll referred to as "a rare player."

"We all know that guys of this stature come out in the draft and they get drafted in the top 10," Carroll said. "You have to be positioned in the top 10 to get them, and fortunately over our history we haven't had that opportunity. But the unfortunate part is, you can see the teams that have, and they've loaded up. They've got guys that can really wreak havoc, make a difference, and they're the ones that you always wish you could have, but we haven't had an opportunity to get them.

"That's the choice—how you make that choice and when you do it, and how do you gauge the pluses and the minuses? This was one of those situations where we get a rare player, and he's young enough—hopefully we can have a chance to get him back again—and could be a big factor. This kind of a choice reminds us that we don't have these options very often to get a player like that. So when you get player who is that obviously at the head of his class, we like to take a shot at it when we can. We're battling. I hope it works out right, we'll find out. We've had some really good No. 2s the last few years, so we look at it like, 'OK, that could be that guy, it could be that guy.' So we know we're giving up something."

Having followed Williams' career at USC, scouted him leading up to the 2015 draft, and faced him multiple times in the NFL, Carroll is very familiar with the player Seattle is adding, and excited about what he can bring to an already strong defensive line led by veterans Jarran Reed, Dre'Mont Jones and Mario Edwards Jr.

Asked what he likes about Williams' game, Carroll said, "Oh man, everything. We watched him for a long time and have known of him for a good while, (USC) Trojan and all of that. He's a fantastic football player. He's the kind of guy that can make the difference in games. He's really a nice player."

Williams also has versatility that will make him even more valuable.

"He can play anywhere," Carroll said. "He can play five-technique, he can play three-technique and he plays on the center as well. He's done all of that. He brings a lot of versatility."

 

Now what hockey player in "The Whole Wide World" (Wreckless Eric?) would fit that description?

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