AK-19 Posted November 2, 2023 Share Posted November 2, 2023 2 hours ago, AatuD2 said: Yeah I'm out on Tanev too, he's looking pretty slow out there and I don't feel like paying a 2nd and a 3rd round pick for him, or whatever it will take. Calgary does have three good young forwards in Zary, Pelletier, and Coronato. They also have one of the best young goalies in Dustin Wolf. I don't think they'd trade their young guys in a rebuild which seems inevitable now. As much as I love Tanev, Zadarov would be a better fit here. He'd make a great partner for Willander in the future and solidify the second pair Hughes Hronek Zadarov Willander Soucy Friedman Hirose, McWard 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Duke Posted November 2, 2023 Share Posted November 2, 2023 Our needs on the back end are: This season: RD upgrade on Friedman Next season: 2nd and 3rd pair RD 2nd pair LD (Cole) Tanev could work as a Friedman upgrade this year and a 3rd pairing guy next year - but at his age it’s year to year. I like Tanev if we’re high on Willander. Zadorov could works as a long term Cole replacement on the 2nd pair. But IMO that’s an offseason move. Management still needs to look at what Cole has done this year and see if he’s worth bringing back on another 1 year deal. Same goes with Myers and Friedman. Cheap short term deals for vets could be a lot better than committing to average defenders like Zadorov and / or Peeke. I think this offseason Management needs to find a true blue 3D to drive the 2nd pair. Left or right. Then keep filling the rest in with cheap vets or in house talent. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AatuD2 Posted November 2, 2023 Share Posted November 2, 2023 55 minutes ago, AK-19 said: I don't think they'd trade their young guys in a rebuild which seems inevitable now. As much as I love Tanev, Zadarov would be a better fit here. He'd make a great partner for Willander in the future and solidify the second pair Hughes Hronek Zadarov Willander Soucy Friedman Hirose, McWard Oh yeah for sure, I might've worded that wrong. I don't think that Calgary would trade any of their young talent. I would also prefer Zadorov over Tanev (they are both right-handed though I believe). The absolute worst thing that could happen to the Flames is that they stay in the hunt past the trade deadline and don't trade out any pieces. That's exactly what I'm hoping for. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blitz-Pix Posted November 2, 2023 Share Posted November 2, 2023 (edited) 6 minutes ago, AatuD2 said: Oh yeah for sure, I might've worded that wrong. I don't think that Calgary would trade any of their young talent. I would also prefer Zadorov over Tanev (they are both right-handed though I believe). The absolute worst thing that could happen to the Flames is that they stay in the hunt past the trade deadline and don't trade out any pieces. That's exactly what I'm hoping for. Zadorov is a lefty....I would still prefer him though. Edited November 2, 2023 by Blitz-Pix 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Odjickwillkillyou Posted November 2, 2023 Share Posted November 2, 2023 You hate to see it 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Long Posted November 2, 2023 Share Posted November 2, 2023 2 minutes ago, Odjickwillkillyou said: You hate to see it 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RWJC Posted November 3, 2023 Author Share Posted November 3, 2023 (edited) A proposal by Jeff Marek this morning involved CGY potentially looking to pry Duclair out of SJS to reunite him with Huberdeau as an attempt to get him going. Wonder what they’d have to give up for that. Hopefully a nice pick just to set CGY back even further when the trade eventually fails to work out for the better. Edited November 3, 2023 by RWJC 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tower102 Posted November 3, 2023 Share Posted November 3, 2023 12 hours ago, RWJC said: A proposal by Jeff Marek this morning involved CGY potentially looking to pry Duclair out of FLA to reunite him with Huberdeau as an attempt to get him going. Wonder what they’d have to give up for that. Hopefully a nice pick just to set CGY back even further when the trade eventually fails to work out for the better. Duclair plays for SJ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Long Posted November 3, 2023 Share Posted November 3, 2023 12 hours ago, RWJC said: A proposal by Jeff Marek this morning involved CGY potentially looking to pry Duclair out of FLA to reunite him with Huberdeau as an attempt to get him going. Wonder what they’d have to give up for that. Hopefully a nice pick just to set CGY back even further when the trade eventually fails to work out for the better. Probably nothing. SJ would be cruel to keep him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RWJC Posted November 3, 2023 Author Share Posted November 3, 2023 14 minutes ago, Tower102 said: Duclair plays for SJ Apologies, that’s what I meant. Alzheimer’s is a bitch! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canucks curse Posted November 3, 2023 Share Posted November 3, 2023 Hoglander + beauvellier for Tanev makes too much sense CGY can flip beaulivier at TDL for a pick, if they work it right maybe they get a 3rd or 2nd with retention Thats like Hoglander + a 3rd which is fair 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JeremyCuddles Posted November 3, 2023 Share Posted November 3, 2023 "They stopped answering our calls, so we'll take a break from negotiating for a bit :D" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canuck73_3 Posted November 3, 2023 Share Posted November 3, 2023 7 hours ago, Bob Long said: Probably nothing. SJ would be cruel to keep him. Canucks Should make a deal for him then trade him to Calgary for a kings ransom, 5D Chess move. Andersson come on down. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilentSam Posted November 4, 2023 Share Posted November 4, 2023 No to Tanev. Calgary rumours have them trying to sign him before Zadorov. I think Zadorov will hold out anyway, and may ask for a trade once / if Tanev gets signed. With D man Petersson and Willander perhaps a year away , I see Zadorov as a perfect fit with this team presently and into the future. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Audio Dave Posted November 4, 2023 Share Posted November 4, 2023 On 11/1/2023 at 4:44 PM, PhillipBlunt said: Yeah. What does that have to do with Vancouver allowing the DTES to become an absolute vile hellhole? When has it not been? People have to go somewhere, unless we actually do something to end homelessness. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
112 Posted November 4, 2023 Share Posted November 4, 2023 (edited) since we're talking about homelessness, here's how to solve it: -increase disability to $2,000+/mo and index it to inflation -legalize all drugs, mass produce them and offer them as prescriptions for addiction, ensuring the substance-dependent have enough to keep them going every day and that the drugs are covered by their healthcare plans Edited November 4, 2023 by 112 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
112 Posted November 4, 2023 Share Posted November 4, 2023 3 minutes ago, 112 said: since we're talking about homelessness, here's how to solve it: -increase disability to $2,000+/mo and index it to inflation -legalize all drugs, mass produce them and offer them as prescriptions for addiction, ensuring the substance-dependent have enough to keep them going every day and that the drugs are covered by their healthcare plans @PhillipBlunt - your idea is to re-open riverview, so i'm not sure why you're laughing. they've already done that and the problem isn't fixed. new riverview, on the same grounds: http://www.bcmhsus.ca/our-services/provincial-integrated-mental-health-addiction-programs/red-fish-healing-centre the problem has more to do with addiction than mental illness per se. what's wrong with free drugs? keep them doped up, safe and happy, and you'll stop seeing the storefronts smashed in and people getting slashed with machetes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhillipBlunt Posted November 4, 2023 Share Posted November 4, 2023 30 minutes ago, 112 said: @PhillipBlunt - your idea is to re-open riverview, so i'm not sure why you're laughing. they've already done that and the problem isn't fixed. new riverview, on the same grounds: http://www.bcmhsus.ca/our-services/provincial-integrated-mental-health-addiction-programs/red-fish-healing-centre the problem has more to do with addiction than mental illness per se. what's wrong with free drugs? keep them doped up, safe and happy, and you'll stop seeing the storefronts smashed in and people getting slashed with machetes. Riverview isn’t opened to the same capacity that it once had. Not even close. At its height, it housed thousands of patients on 90 acres. Most of the buildings on the land are in various stages of disrepair or decay. Was there yesterday and can vouch for it being a ghost town. Free drugs isn’t a solution. Will alcoholics get free wine? Folks who like weed get free gummies or joints? Of course not. Get people off of drugs and then address their mental situation in a safe clinical environment rather than a disease ridden, shit stained area of town. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
112 Posted November 4, 2023 Share Posted November 4, 2023 (edited) 32 minutes ago, PhillipBlunt said: Riverview isn’t opened to the same capacity that it once had. Not even close. At its height, it housed thousands of patients on 90 acres. Most of the buildings on the land are in various stages of disrepair or decay. Was there yesterday and can vouch for it being a ghost town. Free drugs isn’t a solution. Will alcoholics get free wine? Folks who like weed get free gummies or joints? Of course not. Get people off of drugs and then address their mental situation in a safe clinical environment rather than a disease ridden, shit stained area of town. You're never going to succeed in "[getting] people off drugs." You're not going to win the drug war. There are some people who will never get clean, and these people constitute a permanent market for illicit drugs. Take away the prospect of withdrawal and a lot of people will immediately stop causing destruction. fwiw, alcoholics and people with cannabis use disorder should get free booze/herb depending on their financial situation imo. e: there's also no quality of life inside a riverview-like institution. I don't want thousands of people living miserably just because the rest of society thinks they're undesirable. Only the criminally insane convicted of serious crimes should be locked up forever. A lot of people don't get how the humane perspective is to acknowledge people enjoy life more on the streets than confined in a facility like that one. Edited November 4, 2023 by 112 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
falcon45ca Posted November 4, 2023 Share Posted November 4, 2023 Trade the Flames Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PureQuickness Posted November 5, 2023 Share Posted November 5, 2023 On 10/31/2023 at 8:39 PM, AnthonyG said: Oh look a troll! Bennings been gone 2 years and you still cant stop talking about him for no reason, sounds like a broken hearted jealous ex who hasnt moved on yet. How cute It's actually scary how obsessed people are about Benning. I hate to make this political, but this is equivalent to people talking about Trudeau. I think there's parallels between the two - very unpopular people nowadays, but at some point, name dropping someone who is NOT related to an event is just asinine behaviour. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LillStrimma Posted November 5, 2023 Share Posted November 5, 2023 2 minutes ago, PureQuickness said: It's actually scary how obsessed people are about Benning. I hate to make this political, but this is equivalent to people talking about Trudeau. I think there's parallels between the two - very unpopular people nowadays, but at some point, name dropping someone who is NOT related to an event is just asinine behaviour. So you haven’t seen talk about Gillis? You know the guy who was before Benning even and he still get shit from posters.The sooner both Gillis and Benning get dropped as talking points this forum will be quite good. But I don’t have any high hopes… Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alflives Posted November 5, 2023 Share Posted November 5, 2023 On 10/31/2023 at 8:39 PM, AnthonyG said: Oh look a troll! Bennings been gone 2 years and you still cant stop talking about him for no reason, sounds like a broken hearted jealous ex who hasnt moved on yet. How cute Benning has been gone for two years but his horrid choices are still impacting the club. He did bring us Hughes, Petey, Miller, Boeser, and Demko though. But he left us with OEL, Garland, and Myers’ contracts. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RWJC Posted November 5, 2023 Author Share Posted November 5, 2023 (edited) 7 minutes ago, LillStrimma said: So you haven’t seen talk about Gillis? You know the guy who was before Benning even and he still get shit from posters.The sooner both Gillis and Benning get dropped as talking points this forum will be quite good. But I don’t have any high hopes… December 5 2021 Jim Benning was fired as GM. It’s been less than 2 seasons and some of his mistakes will be affecting this team until 2029-2030. I would suggest accepting the GMJB talk for a while still especially as it unfortunately remains relevant to an extent Edited November 5, 2023 by RWJC 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LillStrimma Posted November 5, 2023 Share Posted November 5, 2023 6 minutes ago, RWJC said: December 5 2021 Jim Benning was fired as GM. It’s been less than 2 seasons and some of his mistakes will be affecting this team until 2029-2030. I would suggest accepting the GMJB talk for a while still especially as it unfortunately remains relevant to an extent Yes, as Gillis still hangaround with Hronek, Beau and Räty clinging to his legacy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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