gwarrior Posted November 6, 2023 Share Posted November 6, 2023 Chicago Bungholes would be more accurate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coconuts Posted November 6, 2023 Share Posted November 6, 2023 I opened this thread and the first thing I saw was Rick Westhead's name. Fucking legend. Fuck the Hawks though, I can't emphasize this enough. Not remotely surprising that they'd be cover up more than on sexual assault. 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coconuts Posted November 6, 2023 Share Posted November 6, 2023 (edited) 8 hours ago, MeanSeanBean said: I hate that franchise so fucking much Hating the Blackhawks is the only ethical approach. 7 hours ago, Rekker said: So they will get punished again? Well they didn't really get punished enough first time. But Bettman will get this one right.....not. Make Bedard a UFA, strip them of Bedard. 7 hours ago, Diamonds said: Does this mean we can now retroactively take away their first overall pick last year? I honestly don't know why they were allowed to keep it. Also hopefully this puts to bed any rumors of Quenneville or Stan Bowman returning to the NHL. Maybe we can also ban Cheveldayoff now too. Truly despicable organization. Wasn't Chevy cleared? I thought he'd moved on to another organization and assumed the Hawks had taken care of it or something? Can't remember, I'd have to go through the CDC Hawks thread.. But yeah, no way should Quenneville or Bowman be allowed to return. Edited November 6, 2023 by Coconuts 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CBH1926 Posted November 6, 2023 Share Posted November 6, 2023 1 hour ago, Coconuts said: Wasn't Chevy cleared? I thought he'd moved on to another organization and assumed the Hawks had taken care of it or something? Can't remember, I'd have to go through the CDC Hawks thread.. Nah, he is another guy that should have been fired. In couple of years once all lawsuits gets settled, Stan and Q will be back in the NHL. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snoop Hogg Posted November 6, 2023 Share Posted November 6, 2023 I have a hard time believing there were only 2 victims during this time frame he was a coach there. 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iron Man Posted November 6, 2023 Share Posted November 6, 2023 I truly don't understand the league's concept of the punishment fitting the crime. Ottawa was negligent, reckless, careless, whatever you want to call it regarding the Dadonov situation. But Chicago's top brass deliberately covered up a criminal offence, and a serious one at that. The two are not even comparable as far as moral culpability is concerned. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diamonds Posted November 6, 2023 Share Posted November 6, 2023 (edited) 2 hours ago, Coconuts said: Hating the Blackhawks is the only ethical approach. Make Bedard a UFA, strip them of Bedard. Wasn't Chevy cleared? I thought he'd moved on to another organization and assumed the Hawks had taken care of it or something? Can't remember, I'd have to go through the CDC Hawks thread.. But yeah, no way should Quenneville or Bowman be allowed to return. Chevy was interviewed as part of the independent investigation and was apparently the only person who said they remembered being in the room when Beach's complaint against Aldrich was discussed. I think he might have only been let off the hook because he was honest. Edit: there's a statement from Bettman in this link that states the Chevy wasn't penalized because Bettman didn't deem him "a member of the Blackhawks senior leadership team" even though he was an AGM of the Blackhawks at the time. https://ftw.usatoday.com/lists/chicago-blackhawks-sexual-assault-scandal-timeline-stan-bowman Edited November 6, 2023 by Diamonds 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coolboarder Posted November 6, 2023 Share Posted November 6, 2023 This shows that they were not cleaning things up in the first place. If there was known incident that they failed to report to the investigation by NHL, it will force NHL's hand if it is true. A severe punishment is sorely needed to send a message that it is not acceptable. 5 first round pick penalty, severe penalties with fine and a new ownership. It also does show that whoever had knowledge did not report to the NHL of another incident. If they did tell the NHL by the investigation that there was other incident but choose not to include that in the report does show that the NHL is all corruption altogether by trying to cover it up and deserve to be jailed for it, that include Bettman if he had knowledge about that and choose not to include in the report. It is not a good look by the NHL. Whoever was looking for reinstatement will never be able to work in the league again like for example, Coach Q and others. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NucksRuleYou Posted November 6, 2023 Share Posted November 6, 2023 Fuck Chicago and fuck the league! There is no fucking excuse why they were allowed to draft Bedard. Absolute bullshit! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wai_lai416 Posted November 6, 2023 Share Posted November 6, 2023 Just curious how often do nhl coaches work or interact with the ahl players? I thought the ahl have their own staff. Kinda creepy he snuck into the room playing with his feet while he was having s** with another woman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goal_thecup Posted November 6, 2023 Share Posted November 6, 2023 1 hour ago, wai_lai416 said: Just curious how often do nhl coaches work or interact with the ahl players? I thought the ahl have their own staff. Kinda creepy he snuck into the room playing with his feet while he was having s** with another woman Kinda creepy?? Should have beat the shit out of him right then and there! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wai_lai416 Posted November 6, 2023 Share Posted November 6, 2023 10 minutes ago, Goal_thecup said: Kinda creepy?? Should have beat the shit out of him right then and there! I didn’t read into it in details but some of the allegation seems kinda weird. Like the one where he ask to join in while he was having s** with another women. Was this at a hotel or something?? If so how did Aldrich have access to the room? The women didn’t notice? And if she noticed she didn’t file a police report? And like i asked earlier how often do ahl player work with the nhl coaching staff?? I don’t doubt Aldrich is a pos and prolly is guilty again but some of the allegation seems kinda wild Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post bishopshodan Posted November 6, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted November 6, 2023 Bedard would be a legend if he demanded a trade. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diamonds Posted November 6, 2023 Share Posted November 6, 2023 2 hours ago, wai_lai416 said: I didn’t read into it in details but some of the allegation seems kinda weird. Like the one where he ask to join in while he was having s** with another women. Was this at a hotel or something?? If so how did Aldrich have access to the room? The women didn’t notice? And if she noticed she didn’t file a police report? And like i asked earlier how often do ahl player work with the nhl coaching staff?? I don’t doubt Aldrich is a pos and prolly is guilty again but some of the allegation seems kinda wild The player was a black ace, which means he was a call-up during the playoff run. So yes, this would have been at a hotel and coaching staff may have had access to all players rooms. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HKSR Posted November 6, 2023 Share Posted November 6, 2023 Ok, we really gotta stop it with these lawsuits against the Blackhawks... I mean, do we really want them to get Macklin Celebrini too? 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coconuts Posted November 6, 2023 Share Posted November 6, 2023 30 minutes ago, HKSR said: Ok, we really gotta stop it with these lawsuits against the Blackhawks... I mean, do we really want them to get Macklin Celebrini too? That's the sad thing, unless the Hawks do well enough to put themselves outside the top 5 they could end up being handed another top tier talent. The league should take away their 1st. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Diamonds Posted November 6, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted November 6, 2023 18 minutes ago, Coconuts said: That's the sad thing, unless the Hawks do well enough to put themselves outside the top 5 they could end up being handed another top tier talent. The league should take away their 1st. Honestly at this point I would consider just outright banning them from the 2024 draft. Don't forget this is actually their 3rd strike. 2009-10 was also the year Bill Peters racially abused Akim Aliu on their AHL affiliate the Rockford IceHogs. 3 strikes and you're out. 1 2 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coconuts Posted November 6, 2023 Share Posted November 6, 2023 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Diamonds said: Honestly at this point I would consider just outright banning them from the 2024 draft. Don't forget this is actually their 3rd strike. 2009-10 was also the year Bill Peters racially abused Akim Aliu on their AHL affiliate the Rockford IceHogs. 3 strikes and you're out. Financial penalties aren't going to hurt a million dollar organization, the previous punishment was a joke. Hit them where it actually hurts. If they're going to take a 1st from Ottawa for bungling a trade they should punish Chicago for covering up multiple sexual assault scandals by at least doing the same. Edited November 6, 2023 by Coconuts 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HKSR Posted November 6, 2023 Share Posted November 6, 2023 2 hours ago, Diamonds said: Honestly at this point I would consider just outright banning them from the 2024 draft. Don't forget this is actually their 3rd strike. 2009-10 was also the year Bill Peters racially abused Akim Aliu on their AHL affiliate the Rockford IceHogs. 3 strikes and you're out. Or in the Blackhawks case... HAT TRICK! Congratulations! You get another 1st OA pick! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
5forFighting Posted November 7, 2023 Share Posted November 7, 2023 Poor Connor Bedard is going to have that shadow hanging over him his entire career there. I just don't see that team being successful for decades. That city is a mess, the ownership is a mess, the team is a mess. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Arrogant Worms Posted November 7, 2023 Share Posted November 7, 2023 Attorneys: Former player suing Blackhawks inspired to come forward by Beach https://www.sportsnet.ca/nhl/article/attorneys-former-player-suing-blackhawks-inspired-to-come-forward-by-beach/ 1 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wai_lai416 Posted November 7, 2023 Share Posted November 7, 2023 6 hours ago, Diamonds said: The player was a black ace, which means he was a call-up during the playoff run. So yes, this would have been at a hotel and coaching staff may have had access to all players rooms. Thx I have no idea what a black ace was. But I still find it awkward how staff have access to all players room in a hotel. First off there’s privacy issue.. staff can search a players room with consent.. not just break in whenever they want and second won’t there be a roommate present? Like I dunno if teams rent a room for each individual player I find that highly unlikely especially for a prospect. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hairy Kneel Posted November 7, 2023 Share Posted November 7, 2023 On 11/5/2023 at 5:59 PM, gwarrior said: They should be stripped of the 2010 championship. ALL rings returned. In the record book should say "no champion". Then take that rapist, and throw his ass to the wolves in prison. They should be penalized 3 first round picks. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hairy Kneel Posted November 7, 2023 Share Posted November 7, 2023 22 hours ago, Coconuts said: Financial penalties aren't going to hurt a million dollar organization, the previous punishment was a joke. Hit them where it actually hurts. If they're going to take a 1st from Ottawa for bungling a trade they should punish Chicago for covering up multiple sexual assault scandals by at least doing the same. 3 1sts Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hairy Kneel Posted November 7, 2023 Share Posted November 7, 2023 On 11/5/2023 at 3:22 PM, PhillipBlunt said: So Ottawa loses their first round pick this year but the Hawks who allowed a sexual predator to work there unabated suffer no consequence? This league is truly run by some reprehensible and vile humans. Truth 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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