[Waivers] Jack Campbell

[gwarrior]

Ok, let me get this straight, we ran Skinner and the rest of the Oilers out of the building, and Campbell gets waived? Wow.

[King Heffy]

Pretty sure he clears.  Edmonton might as well save the cap space and just let the EBUG play full time since they lack a legit NHL goalie.

[AatuD2]

6 hours ago, DownUndaCanuck said:

They can blame their bad goalies as much as they want but when you've got 2 bad goalies with similar stats, chances are your team defensive play is a big problem too and that'll never change.

 

Look at us - we sucked defensively under Bruce, basically keep the same goalies and clean out our coaching staff to become more defensive, now our goaltender and defensive stats go through the roof.

 

They can put whoever they want in between the pipes, they're going to get shelled. I know they give up some bad rebounds and goals but I'd say at least half of them are purely bad defending.

[PeteyBOI]

22 minutes ago, gwarrior said:

Ok, let me get this straight, we ran Skinner and the rest of the Oilers out of the building, and Campbell gets waived? Wow.

Skinner is allstar 

[Hammertime]

There has to be a trade for a goalie in the works right? Right? 

[Sharpshooter]

50 minutes ago, AatuD2 said:

Aw, don’t use poor Peppa! 

[Sharpshooter]

Wow. 
 

The Canucks actually broke the Oilers. 
 

[PureQuickness]

2 hours ago, 4petesake said:

 

 

Analytics can be horribly wrong. This is an example of that.

[Devron]

I actually really like Campbell. Every interview I think he seems like a great guy. Hope to see him back. Preferably on another team 

[JayDangles]

9 hours ago, Rekker said:

Not with that contract. I suspect this is a move made to get Campbell some steady playing time, maybe get his confidence back. Just run with Skinner in the meantime. Not a bad plan for a desperate club?

Yeah nothing builds confidence more than being waived from the leagues 2nd worst team. I love it!

[JayDangles]

3 hours ago, gwarrior said:

Ok, let me get this straight, we ran Skinner and the rest of the Oilers out of the building, and Campbell gets waived? Wow.

Next thing you know Woodcroft is going to be extended. The Oilers are great for entertainment right now! They are in complete panic mode. 

[JayDangles]

6 hours ago, Snoop Hogg said:

Honestly, they need a major restructuring. Start with firing Holland and Woodcroft. Then trade McDavid, DrySaddle, Nurse, Kane and anyone else with value.

The problem is Nurse has absolutely no value, and no team wants Kane anywhere near their dressing room.

If Oilers don't turn it around in the next 5 games, things are going to get really dicey. 

[JayDangles]

3 hours ago, MikeBossy said:

I love Oilers fans - two of my favourite posts I saw after Campbell was waived were " now we can sign Patrick Kane" and " we just need Phil Kessel"

The first poster thought Campbell going down freed up his 5 million and the second poster felt the Oilers issue was they only had one natural right winger 

Well of course.. in Edmonton you fix bad defence and goaltending by adding more scoring. Obviously

[Spring Salmon]

3 hours ago, PeteyBoeser said:

Wonder how spencer Martin would’ve played this year for us if we didn’t get desmith 

[EB43]

How many teams claimed him?

[Captain insano]

Sooo where is McDavid getting traded? 

[wai_lai416]

10 hours ago, iinatcc said:

Which is a head scratcher since Holland built the Red Wings to be sustainable and competitive for 20+ years and most of that as cup contenders. 

i mean is it that hard to build a team when his team constantly had multiple hall of famers on it?? shanahan hasek yzerman federov larianov murphy chelio zetterburg lidstrom datsyuk hull robitalle etc on it.. holland tbh wasn't that great since the salary cap was implemented but he still have zetterburg datsyuk hasek osgood carrying the team

[Boudrias]

9 hours ago, Devron said:

I actually really like Campbell. Every interview I think he seems like a great guy. Hope to see him back. Preferably on another team 

Top heavy teams like the Oilers and Laffers look at savior goalies like Campbell to save them from their poor defense. Doesn't work. My hope is that Demko does not suffer the same fate. He has in the past but RT is bringing a level of accountability that we haven't seen in Van for a very long time. 

 

I'd point out that the guru Freidman said that Campbell would be the answer in both Lafferville and Edmonton. I don't know how Holland will eat that CAP hit. 

[tas]

18 minutes ago, Boudrias said:

I'd point out that the guru Freidman said that Campbell would be the answer in both Lafferville and Edmonton.

people need to learn how to compartmentalize their sources of information.

 

elliotte friedman isn't a hockey expert, he's a journalist and hockey fan with nhl sources.

 

his opinions and analyses of games and players are no more insightful or informed than yours or mine. friedman is useful because he provides information that we wouldn't otherwise have access to. 

 

there's no reason to believe that his takes and opinions hold any water at all. 

 

 

[Bob Long]

10 hours ago, Devron said:

I actually really like Campbell. Every interview I think he seems like a great guy. Hope to see him back. Preferably on another team 

 

AZ should claim him, he'd be an upgrade there. 

 

[JayDangles]

9 hours ago, Captain insano said:

Sooo where is McDavid getting traded? 

You know that if he was ever traded, the league would make sure it wasn't to a Canadian team. They would find a way to squeeze the system and he would end up in Vegas

[King Heffy]

2 hours ago, Bob Long said:

 

AZ should claim him, he'd be an upgrade there. 

 

Maybe for their AHL affiliate.

[RWJC]

How the Oilers could potentially solve their glaring goaltending problem

 

James O'Brien

Updated Wed, November 8, 2023 at 8:38 AM PST

 

It won't be easy to fix the dire crease situation in Edmonton, but there are several viable paths GM Ken Holland could travel in pursuit of a goalie.

 

While Edmonton Oilers fans and media debatejust how much blame Jack Campbell deserves for the team’s disastrous start, the bottom line is that Campbell hasn’t gotten the job done.

 

Such a thought was truly cemented after the Oilers waived their $5M goalie to demote him to the AHL on Tuesday, as no reasonable team will take Campbell off Edmonton’s hands without a bribe. To put things mildly, it won’t be easy for the Oilers to trade Campbell — especially if they want a viable goalie in return — but it just might be necessary.

 

Let’s be honest: the best time to move Campbell was probably this past offseason, when teams were making bigger moves and Connor Hellebuyck was still on the market. Failing that, they could have embraced a painful reality and bought Campbell out.

 

Big, splashy offseason goalie trades are already rare. Making moves with a lot of moving parts in-season raises the difficulty level even higher, particularly for a goalie with term like Campbell. It’s not just that his cap hit is a painful $5M, it’s that the 31-year-old’s albatross deal runs through 2026-27.

 

Whether or not the team can move Campbell at this point doesn't really matter, as Oilers GM Ken Holland has to find a way to acquire a netminder before Edmonton's season is completely off the rails and another year of Connor McDavid and Leon Draisaitl's primes fades away.

 

So, here are some options Holland can pursue in search of that elusive 'tendy:

 

Saros, the Sharks and serious considerations

 

Predators — Juuse Saros

 

A blockbuster trade involving Saros was an easier sell in the offseason, before Andrew Brunette had a chance to optimize a modest Predators roster.

 

If the Oilers went swimming with the dracula squid and truly went all-out with a huge offerfor Saros, such a trade could still make a lot of sense for Nashville, though.

 

The Predators should probably embrace a rebuild more fully, and with that, betting on 21-year-old goalie prospect Yaroslav Askarov makes the most sense. Saros, 28, figures to get a massive raise from his bargain $5M AAV after next season. Will it really make sense for the Predators to be the team that pays Saros?

 

Moving Campbell’s $5M to Saros for this and next season would be enormously valuable for the Oilers. Beyond his outstanding numbers and arguably excessive workload, Saros ranks as one of the most athletic goalies in the league. Stylistically, there may not be a better option for an Oilers team that’s currently getting decimated off of the rush (and a team likely to trade those chances even when things are going well).

 

Such a win-win but bold solution is probably too rich and sensible for NHL blood, yet it would be brilliant for the Oilers and shrewd work by the Predators. Oh well.

 

 

Sharks — MacKenzie Blackwood

 

If the Oilers are a Dumpster fire in an unexpected place, the Sharks are one behind an abandoned building. On face value, you maybe don’t want to go dumpster-diving in a receptacle billowing with smoke.

 

Context makes the Sharks possibly the most feasible option for a Campbell trade, however.

 

Maybe most importantly, this team is in for a lengthy rebuild. With that, they can either use Campbell’s cap hit to reach the salary floor, shrug off a buyout with little worry, or do both.

Edmonton may also view a goalie such as MacKenzie Blackwood as this year’s Korpisalo: a goaltender quietly putting up respectable numbers in a moribund situation. Blackwood carries a $2.35M cap hit through next season, while fellow young Sharks goalie Kaapo Kahkonen would be a rental at $2.75M.

 

Salary retention could make the deal even sweeter, although the Sharks may prefer to save their third slot to get rid of a problem contract.

Overall, it’s not clear if the Sharks present the “best” solution for the Oilers’ Campbell problem, but they rank among the most feasible trade partners. Really, if Sharks GM Mike Grier isn’t at least broaching the subject, he’s letting his team down as much as they are letting him down.

 

 

Blackhawks — Petr Mrazek

 

Ken Holland loves former Detroit Red Wings, even mediocre ones. If the Blackhawks retained a chunk of Mrazek’s rather aggressive $3.8M, the Oilers could bolster Chicago's rebuild with even more draft picks and/or prospects.

 

If you squint, Mrazek sports the sort of athleticism that could fit well in Edmonton. His injury history and erratic results would likely creep up, so the biggest lure in this hypothetical situation would likely be wiggling out of Campbell’s contract. Theoretically, Mrazek wouldn’t even need to be involved.

 

 

Flyers — Carter Hart

 

Trading for Carter Hart before the 2018 Hockey Canada investigation concludes would be poor form even for an Oilers franchise with a history of employing players with ugly pasts.

 

However, on the ice, there's no denying this is a solid potential fit considering his pedigree, where he's from (Alberta), his age (25) and the sub-$4M cap hit he carries.
 

Hart has been solid so far this year on a surprisingly not-terrible Flyers team, posting a 4-3-0 record to go with a .913 save % in seven appearances so far.

 

 

Wait for these rebuilders to slip?

 

Anaheim Ducks

 

The Ducks are playing at a much higher level after they got rid of former Oilers coach Dallas Eakins. With that, a deal involving John Gibson and Campbell is likely less appetizing, at least for now.

 

Such a gamble would make for fascinating theatre because Gibson’s contract also runs through 2026-27 at a higher AAV of $6.4M. Gibson’s been a divisive goalie even during his peak years, so if the Oilers pulled off a trade with the Ducks, they’d be gambling in net again — and with the same term.

 

That’s definitely scary, but if Oilers management truly believed in Gibson’s potential on a more proven team — and bribed the Ducks to take Campbell and focus on Lukas Dostal — then it would be one of the most fascinating Hail Mary hockey trades in ages.

 

 

Arizona Coyotes

 

From the standings to the eye test, the Coyotes look downright respectable so far this season. They may view multiple years of Karel Vejmelka and Connor Ingram at $4.675M combined as too great a potential competitive advantage to give up, especially for a penny-pinching franchise.

 

What if this would count as selling high on someone like Vejmelka, though? They don’t necessarily need to rush to trade a buzz-worthy 27-year-old who’s on a $2.75M clip for this and next season, but the Oilers also could be desperate enough to really break the pick-and-prospect bank for him.

 

Apropos of nothing: Campbell costs $5M this season, $5.4M next, $4.2M in 2025-26 and $3.9M in 2026-27, with all of his signing bonuses already paid off. Sounds like an Arizona type to me.

 

 

Oddball options

 

Canadiens and Blue Jackets: These rebuilding(-ish?) teams make sense, but the money’s a little tighter. Keep an eye on these squads if a Campbell trade push happens around deadline time, however. Habs netminder Jake Allen could be in play here.

 

Blues: The Oilers seem like they’d be lured into Jordan Binnington’s hot start. You may have heard that Holland covets players with Stanley Cups on their resume, sometimes to his detriment.

 

Capitals: Darcy Kuemper is another goalie with a similar contract: $5.25M AAV through 2026-27. He won a Stanley Cup recently, is a large goalie and the Caps probably need to shake out of rebuild denial one of these days. That could be a tempting combination.

 

Link to rest of article:

https://ca.yahoo.com/sports/news/how-the-oilers-could-potentially-solve-their-glaring-goaltending-problem-163846253.html

Edited November 8, 2023 by RWJC

[Kragar]

20 hours ago, Jim Tim said:

Holland might be the most overrated GM right now. Almost every move he makes is a head scratcher. How do you have the best 2 players in the world and can't build around them? They're against the cap ceiling and they have almost zero star power beyond McD, Drai, and RNH.

Considering he went straight from a successful Detroit career to Edmonton, does it mean Katz is interfering, and deserves more of the blame?

 

Or is Ken Holland only as good as the team that has a Lindstrom-like player holding down the fort?

[soggy]

11 minutes ago, RWJC said:

How the Oilers could potentially solve their glaring goaltending problem

 

James O'Brien

Updated Wed, November 8, 2023 at 8:38 AM PST

 

It won't be easy to fix the dire crease situation in Edmonton, but there are several viable paths GM Ken Holland could travel in pursuit of a goalie.

 

While Edmonton Oilers fans and media debatejust how much blame Jack Campbell deserves for the team’s disastrous start, the bottom line is that Campbell hasn’t gotten the job done.

 

Such a thought was truly cemented after the Oilers waived their $5M goalie to demote him to the AHL on Tuesday, as no reasonable team will take Campbell off Edmonton’s hands without a bribe. To put things mildly, it won’t be easy for the Oilers to trade Campbell — especially if they want a viable goalie in return — but it just might be necessary.

 

Let’s be honest: the best time to move Campbell was probably this past offseason, when teams were making bigger moves and Connor Hellebuyck was still on the market. Failing that, they could have embraced a painful reality and bought Campbell out.

 

Big, splashy offseason goalie trades are already rare. Making moves with a lot of moving parts in-season raises the difficulty level even higher, particularly for a goalie with term like Campbell. It’s not just that his cap hit is a painful $5M, it’s that the 31-year-old’s albatross deal runs through 2026-27.

 

Whether or not the team can move Campbell at this point doesn't really matter, as Oilers GM Ken Holland has to find a way to acquire a netminder before Edmonton's season is completely off the rails and another year of Connor McDavid and Leon Draisaitl's primes fades away.

 

So, here are some options Holland can pursue in search of that elusive 'tendy:

 

Saros, the Sharks and serious considerations

 

Predators — Juuse Saros

 

A blockbuster trade involving Saros was an easier sell in the offseason, before Andrew Brunette had a chance to optimize a modest Predators roster.

 

If the Oilers went swimming with the dracula squid and truly went all-out with a huge offerfor Saros, such a trade could still make a lot of sense for Nashville, though.

 

The Predators should probably embrace a rebuild more fully, and with that, betting on 21-year-old goalie prospect Yaroslav Askarov makes the most sense. Saros, 28, figures to get a massive raise from his bargain $5M AAV after next season. Will it really make sense for the Predators to be the team that pays Saros?

 

Moving Campbell’s $5M to Saros for this and next season would be enormously valuable for the Oilers. Beyond his outstanding numbers and arguably excessive workload, Saros ranks as one of the most athletic goalies in the league. Stylistically, there may not be a better option for an Oilers team that’s currently getting decimated off of the rush (and a team likely to trade those chances even when things are going well).

 

Such a win-win but bold solution is probably too rich and sensible for NHL blood, yet it would be brilliant for the Oilers and shrewd work by the Predators. Oh well.

 

 

Sharks — MacKenzie Blackwood

 

If the Oilers are a Dumpster fire in an unexpected place, the Sharks are one behind an abandoned building. On face value, you maybe don’t want to go dumpster-diving in a receptacle billowing with smoke.

 

Context makes the Sharks possibly the most feasible option for a Campbell trade, however.

 

Maybe most importantly, this team is in for a lengthy rebuild. With that, they can either use Campbell’s cap hit to reach the salary floor, shrug off a buyout with little worry, or do both.

Edmonton may also view a goalie such as MacKenzie Blackwood as this year’s Korpisalo: a goaltender quietly putting up respectable numbers in a moribund situation. Blackwood carries a $2.35M cap hit through next season, while fellow young Sharks goalie Kaapo Kahkonen would be a rental at $2.75M.

 

Salary retention could make the deal even sweeter, although the Sharks may prefer to save their third slot to get rid of a problem contract.

Overall, it’s not clear if the Sharks present the “best” solution for the Oilers’ Campbell problem, but they rank among the most feasible trade partners. Really, if Sharks GM Mike Grier isn’t at least broaching the subject, he’s letting his team down as much as they are letting him down.

 

 

Blackhawks — Petr Mrazek

 

Ken Holland loves former Detroit Red Wings, even mediocre ones. If the Blackhawks retained a chunk of Mrazek’s rather aggressive $3.8M, the Oilers could bolster Chicago's rebuild with even more draft picks and/or prospects.

 

If you squint, Mrazek sports the sort of athleticism that could fit well in Edmonton. His injury history and erratic results would likely creep up, so the biggest lure in this hypothetical situation would likely be wiggling out of Campbell’s contract. Theoretically, Mrazek wouldn’t even need to be involved.

 

 

Flyers — Carter Hart

 

Trading for Carter Hart before the 2018 Hockey Canada investigation concludes would be poor form even for an Oilers franchise with a history of employing players with ugly pasts.

 

However, on the ice, there's no denying this is a solid potential fit considering his pedigree, where he's from (Alberta), his age (25) and the sub-$4M cap hit he carries.
 

Hart has been solid so far this year on a surprisingly not-terrible Flyers team, posting a 4-3-0 record to go with a .913 save % in seven appearances so far.

 

 

Wait for these rebuilders to slip?

 

Anaheim Ducks

 

The Ducks are playing at a much higher level after they got rid of former Oilers coach Dallas Eakins. With that, a deal involving John Gibson and Campbell is likely less appetizing, at least for now.

 

Such a gamble would make for fascinating theatre because Gibson’s contract also runs through 2026-27 at a higher AAV of $6.4M. Gibson’s been a divisive goalie even during his peak years, so if the Oilers pulled off a trade with the Ducks, they’d be gambling in net again — and with the same term.

 

That’s definitely scary, but if Oilers management truly believed in Gibson’s potential on a more proven team — and bribed the Ducks to take Campbell and focus on Lukas Dostal — then it would be one of the most fascinating Hail Mary hockey trades in ages.

 

 

Arizona Coyotes

 

From the standings to the eye test, the Coyotes look downright respectable so far this season. They may view multiple years of Karel Vejmelka and Connor Ingram at $4.675M combined as too great a potential competitive advantage to give up, especially for a penny-pinching franchise.

 

What if this would count as selling high on someone like Vejmelka, though? They don’t necessarily need to rush to trade a buzz-worthy 27-year-old who’s on a $2.75M clip for this and next season, but the Oilers also could be desperate enough to really break the pick-and-prospect bank for him.

 

Apropos of nothing: Campbell costs $5M this season, $5.4M next, $4.2M in 2025-26 and $3.9M in 2026-27, with all of his signing bonuses already paid off. Sounds like an Arizona type to me.

 

 

Oddball options

 

Canadiens and Blue Jackets: These rebuilding(-ish?) teams make sense, but the money’s a little tighter. Keep an eye on these squads if a Campbell trade push happens around deadline time, however. Habs netminder Jake Allen could be in play here.

 

Blues: The Oilers seem like they’d be lured into Jordan Binnington’s hot start. You may have heard that Holland covets players with Stanley Cups on their resume, sometimes to his detriment.

 

Capitals: Darcy Kuemper is another goalie with a similar contract: $5.25M AAV through 2026-27. He won a Stanley Cup recently, is a large goalie and the Caps probably need to shake out of rebuild denial one of these days. That could be a tempting combination.

 

Link to rest of article:

https://ca.yahoo.com/sports/news/how-the-oilers-could-potentially-solve-their-glaring-goaltending-problem-163846253.html

its hilarious to see them rearranging the deck chairs on their titanic trying to find a goalie that can withstand their AHL calibre defence