Bob Long Posted November 8, 2023 Share Posted November 8, 2023 (edited) Could Beau help Huberdough? He needs something. Cowtown is desperate. Tanev for Beau 1:1. SJ would be another easy choice, likely costs us a little bit to move him. Maybe Nashville for Peeke? sorry meant Fabbro. Edited November 8, 2023 by Bob Long 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barn Burner Posted November 8, 2023 Share Posted November 8, 2023 1 minute ago, Coconuts said: Which is why if Beauvillier is moved I think it'll be more along the lines of a hockey trade that brings cap back as opposed to paying to dump his entire cap hit. I don't agree. If Beauvillier is moved, it better be for a late pick or send him to Abby, sit in the press box, or let him walk at the end of the season. We are not desperate to take a loss in any way or form, including taking back Cap. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coconuts Posted November 8, 2023 Share Posted November 8, 2023 (edited) 10 minutes ago, stawns said: mantha doesn't use his size and he considerably slower than AB. I didn't like AB in the horvat deal, not a huge fan of him in Van, but he's been playing decently well and I don't see a need to disrupt chemistry to trade a fwd for a fwd, which doesn't solve their logjam issue See, that's fair. But I wasn't presenting Mantha as an upgrade, just a different fit. You seem to think better of Beau as a Canuck than I do though, I find him to be rather underwhelming. Wasn't sold on him being part of the package either. I view him as having neutral value at best. 6 minutes ago, DeltaSwede said: My bad on the term. A non physical, non producing, lazy floater with a 1.6 mil cap add on Beauv. This isn't an option the Canucks are considering. My eyes shift to teams like Columbus and Nashville who could both benefit from scoring depth and could also afford to give up a RHD. Columbus have a surplus of wingers but they could benefit from more quality in the line-up. Beauv brings that. The fact that he isn't in our top 6 doesn't make him a 4th liner league wide. The guy can produce given more minutes and a better systems fit. To Columbus: Anthony Beauvillier and Artus Silovs To Vancouver: Andrew Peeke and draft pick I agree Columbus and Nashville could be fits, particularly because of Columbus's D surplus. I see Silovs as a non-starter though, we don't have much in the cupboards as far as tender prospects go and he's very good one. Edited November 8, 2023 by Coconuts Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nucker67 Posted November 8, 2023 Share Posted November 8, 2023 I'd like to see Beauvillier+ to CGY for Tanev. Maybe the + could be Juulsen or Wolanin, as VAN would likely have to add and the Flames might want a serviceable D coming back. Hughes - Tanev Cole - Hronek Soucy - Myers Friedman 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Long Posted November 8, 2023 Share Posted November 8, 2023 2 minutes ago, Nucker67 said: I'd like to see Beauvillier+ to CGY for Tanev. Maybe the + could be Juulsen or Wolanin, as VAN would likely have to add and the Flames might want a serviceable D coming back. Hughes - Tanev Cole - Hronek Soucy - Myers Friedman ^ this would be ideal. I like the idea of H-H starting games, pushing the offence but we can close out games better probably with your configuration. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alflives Posted November 8, 2023 Share Posted November 8, 2023 Beau for Tanev. @Bob Long is correct. Alf’s empties support this trade. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coconuts Posted November 8, 2023 Share Posted November 8, 2023 (edited) 7 minutes ago, Barn Burner said: I don't agree. If Beauvillier is moved, it better be for a late pick or send him to Abby, sit in the press box, or let him walk at the end of the season. We are not desperate to take a loss in any way or form, including taking back Cap. Doubt we waive him at 4.15M and I expect it'd take more than a late pick to move him, but my take on his trade value seems to be different than some others. You don't have to agree, but I think it's more likely that if he's moved it's as part of a hockey trade with multiple pieces being involved. Maybe Beau+ for a D, cap coming back doesn't have to be viewed as a negative if the player is a better fit. Edited November 8, 2023 by Coconuts 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Long Posted November 8, 2023 Share Posted November 8, 2023 2 minutes ago, Alflives said: Beau for Tanev. @Bob Long is correct. Alf’s empties support this trade. the only wrinkle is Cowtown might have to retain a few hundred grand to make the cap work? so maybe its new Beau + a 4th, something like that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rusty Shackleford Posted November 8, 2023 Share Posted November 8, 2023 2 minutes ago, Alflives said: Beau for Tanev. @Bob Long is correct. Alf’s empties support this trade. Maybe have a few more drinks to make sure you're git'r dun. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeltaSwede Posted November 8, 2023 Share Posted November 8, 2023 1 minute ago, Coconuts said: I agree Columbus and Nashville could be fits, particularly because of Columbus's D surplus. I see Silovs as a non-starter though, we don't have much in the cupboards as far as tender prospects go and he's very good one. I don't. I see Silovs as a piece that's intriguing for Columbus who don't have much at all between the pipes in the NHL or in prospects. Canucks have already "replaced" Silovs with Tolopilo for example. Not gonna debate who is the better goalie.. difference is negligible at best. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goal_thecup Posted November 8, 2023 Share Posted November 8, 2023 14 minutes ago, DeltaSwede said: To Columbus: Anthony Beauvillier and Artus Silovs To Vancouver: Andrew Peeke and draft pick Go on, take the money and run. Start the car! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Power-Forward Posted November 8, 2023 Share Posted November 8, 2023 Its too bad we didn't flip him as soon as we got him. e has only lost trade value since then Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barn Burner Posted November 8, 2023 Share Posted November 8, 2023 5 minutes ago, Coconuts said: Doubt we waive him at 4.15M and I expect it'd take more than a late pick to move him, but my take on his trade value seems to be different than some others. You don't have to agree, but I think it's more likely that if he's moved it's as part of a hockey trade with multiple pieces being involved. Maybe Beau+ for a D, cap coming back doesn't have to be viewed as a negative if the player is a better fit. I don't agree at all. There's no need to move him unless he's part of a deal that clearly improves our team, without losing prospects, picks or gaining more Cap and term. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alflives Posted November 8, 2023 Share Posted November 8, 2023 2 minutes ago, Rusty Shackleford said: Maybe have a few more drinks to make sure you're git'r dun. Alf is always working hard to create competition for his current empties. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alflives Posted November 8, 2023 Share Posted November 8, 2023 Just now, Power-Forward said: Its too bad we didn't flip him as soon as we got him. e has only lost trade value since then New Beau played better after the trade thsn old Beau. Taking new Beau (his contract is up this year) allowed us to dumperoo the elephant and get Hronek. Huge win for our club. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
48MPHSlapshot Posted November 8, 2023 Share Posted November 8, 2023 3 minutes ago, Bob Long said: the only wrinkle is Cowtown might have to retain a few hundred grand to make the cap work? so maybe its new Beau + a 4th, something like that. A lot of teams will likely be calling about Tanev. I'm sure they could to better than Beau plus a late pick. That said I still think a deal could be made. Beau was working pretty well with Petey and Kuz back when we first acquired him, so he could potentially be someone that could help jumpstart Huberdeau. I think a more realistic trade looks something like this. To Vancouver -Chris Tanev To Calgary -Beauvillier -Juulsen -2024 2nd rd pick 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Power-Forward Posted November 8, 2023 Share Posted November 8, 2023 Just now, Alflives said: New Beau played better after the trade thsn old Beau. Taking new Beau (his contract is up this year) allowed us to dumperoo the elephant and get Hronek. Huge win for our club. You're right. Beau did play better last year when the trade was made. However, this year Bo has almost double Beau's points. I will still be booing Bo if i go to the next upcoming Islanders game though. Hronek has been great. I hope that if we can move Beau, we can get something of value for him for our team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canuck73_3 Posted November 8, 2023 Share Posted November 8, 2023 (edited) 1 hour ago, Mando27 said: This should have been the idea from the start Garland is useful when not scoring, Beauvillier is utterly useless when not scoring. Edited November 8, 2023 by canuck73_3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TopCheese Posted November 8, 2023 Share Posted November 8, 2023 Im sure garly is retracting his trade request after the way we have started hes been great downlow on the forcheck and on the walls beau on the other hand for me is mid and is a waste of a roster spot hes been underwhelming love to see a trade hapoen to send him out Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Long Posted November 8, 2023 Share Posted November 8, 2023 4 minutes ago, 48MPHSlapshot said: A lot of teams will likely be calling about Tanev. I'm sure they could to better than Beau plus a late pick. That said I still think a deal could be made. Beau was working pretty well with Petey and Kuz back when we first acquired him, so he could potentially be someone that could help jumpstart Huberdeau. I think a more realistic trade looks something like this. To Vancouver -Chris Tanev To Calgary -Beauvillier -Juulsen -2024 2nd rd pick I'd be happy for that deal too. Really anything but a 1st or prime prospect like JK or Willander and lets get 'er dun. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
erkayloomeh Posted November 8, 2023 Share Posted November 8, 2023 I'd like a 3rd pick. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rip The Mesh Posted November 8, 2023 Share Posted November 8, 2023 I like Garland's play this year but it's clear (as he said himself around preseason; ) He doesn't want to be here. If you look far enough back; when Benning made the trade for OEL and Garland, the small dude said he wasn't 5'8, he was 5'6; he appreciated the opportunity In short; If Alvin can pull off a reasonable trade for Conor and raise our available Cap space a tad; The is a Bonus. Hell; It could very well happen on this road trip... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeteyBOI Posted November 8, 2023 Share Posted November 8, 2023 we ac do a stevie y trade and do the cap retention... we will get a net positive Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
48MPHSlapshot Posted November 8, 2023 Share Posted November 8, 2023 4 minutes ago, Bob Long said: I'd be happy for that deal too. Really anything but a 1st or prime prospect like JK or Willander and lets get 'er dun. I don't like giving up picks, but if we're truly in our window, it may be time to go for it. Hughes-Hronek Cole-Tanev Soucy-Myers Friedman That's solid as hell from top to bottom. 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canuck73_3 Posted November 8, 2023 Share Posted November 8, 2023 42 minutes ago, Nucker67 said: Anthony Beauvillier. YOU are the weakest link. Goodbye. I really like that PA make the necessary moves to be better. I can't pick another player on the roster who has underwhelmed more. I can't think of a player who moves so much and does so little as Beauvillier has done this season. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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