Elias Pettersson Posted November 9, 2023 Share Posted November 9, 2023 14 minutes ago, VegasCanuck said: So, Klingberg is a horrendously bad decision, and I think EVERYONE on this board knew it at the time... 4.15 million for him is a joke, he should be around 2.5 million considering his defensive liabilities. Reaves? 10 years ago, great deal. Now? 1.35 million for 3 years is laughable, and it's an anchor for them. Because it's a multi-year, 35+ contract, I don't believe that they are allowed to bury the cap hit in the AHL, even if they waive him and demote him. I believe that they will still have the full cap hit on the main team books, even if he can't play anymore. They can still buy it out apparently... While this is a 35+ contract, it is exempt from the 35+ buyout rules because it is either 1). One year in length, or 2). Not front-loaded and does not have a signing bonus after the first contract year (as per the 2020 MOU). Cap Hit Calculations SEASON INITIAL BASE SALARY INITIAL CAP HIT SIGNING BONUS BUYOUT COST POST-BUYOUT EARNINGS SAVINGS CAP HIT (TOR) 2024-25 $1,350,000 $1,350,000 $0 $450,000 $450,000 $900,000 $450,000 2025-26 $1,350,000 $1,350,000 $0 $450,000 $450,000 $900,000 $450,000 2026-27 $0 $0 $0 $450,000 $450,000 -$450,000 $450,000 2027-28 $0 $0 $0 $450,000 $450,000 -$450,000 $450,000 TOTAL $2,700,000 $2,700,000 $0 $1,800,000 $1,800,000 $900,000 $1,800,000 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post PhillipBlunt Posted November 9, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted November 9, 2023 Leafs season outlook 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nucker67 Posted November 9, 2023 Share Posted November 9, 2023 Bertuzzi isn't really working out too well in TOR, too bad he has a NMC. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elias Pettersson Posted November 9, 2023 Share Posted November 9, 2023 11 minutes ago, VegasCanuck said: They can't even get rid of Reaves cap hit by sending him to the AHL. Because it's a multi-year 35+, it stays with the main team. I believe his contract doesn't meet those qualifications. He can also be bought out... While this is a 35+ contract, it is exempt from the 35+ buyout rules because it is either 1). One year in length, or 2). Not front-loaded and does not have a signing bonus after the first contract year (as per the 2020 MOU) 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain insano Posted November 9, 2023 Share Posted November 9, 2023 1 hour ago, Coconuts said: That’s a tough look for leafs, bottom pair is ahl players middle pair is bottom pair and top pair is middle pair guys….. yikes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VegasCanuck Posted November 9, 2023 Share Posted November 9, 2023 47 minutes ago, Elias Pettersson said: They can still buy it out apparently... While this is a 35+ contract, it is exempt from the 35+ buyout rules because it is either 1). One year in length, or 2). Not front-loaded and does not have a signing bonus after the first contract year (as per the 2020 MOU). Cap Hit Calculations SEASON INITIAL BASE SALARY INITIAL CAP HIT SIGNING BONUS BUYOUT COST POST-BUYOUT EARNINGS SAVINGS CAP HIT (TOR) 2024-25 $1,350,000 $1,350,000 $0 $450,000 $450,000 $900,000 $450,000 2025-26 $1,350,000 $1,350,000 $0 $450,000 $450,000 $900,000 $450,000 2026-27 $0 $0 $0 $450,000 $450,000 -$450,000 $450,000 2027-28 $0 $0 $0 $450,000 $450,000 -$450,000 $450,000 TOTAL $2,700,000 $2,700,000 $0 $1,800,000 $1,800,000 $900,000 $1,800,000 Still not a great option for someone they JUST signed for 3 years, considering what cap space is like right now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Heffy Posted November 9, 2023 Share Posted November 9, 2023 28 minutes ago, Captain insano said: That’s a tough look for leafs, bottom pair is ahl players middle pair is bottom pair and top pair is middle pair guys….. yikes AHLer on the top pairing too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rekker Posted November 9, 2023 Share Posted November 9, 2023 29 minutes ago, Captain insano said: That’s a tough look for leafs, bottom pair is ahl players middle pair is bottom pair and top pair is middle pair guys….. yikes But, but, they are Cup favourites didn't you hear? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tower102 Posted November 9, 2023 Share Posted November 9, 2023 1 hour ago, Bure_Pavel said: Would you do Klingberg for Beau straight up? Exact same cap and term on contract one is stuck playing a 4th line role while the other is a RD and Swede but cant play D. You mean to play Klingberg as a RW? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ribs Posted November 9, 2023 Share Posted November 9, 2023 There's settling and there's...that. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miss Korea Posted November 9, 2023 Share Posted November 9, 2023 Haha let's go Treliving let's fucking go bud 13 hours ago, Miss Korea said: Meh, they've started benching him. Toronto has already been outscored 7-0 with him on the ice (might be an old stat). But do you know who they're still not benching? This guy: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elias Pettersson Posted November 10, 2023 Share Posted November 10, 2023 42 minutes ago, VegasCanuck said: Still not a great option for someone they JUST signed for 3 years, considering what cap space is like right now. True. They could try and trade him as well. I think he’s played for almost every team in the league. Reaves gets around more than the hooker on a Friday night… 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miss Korea Posted November 10, 2023 Share Posted November 10, 2023 17 minutes ago, Elias Pettersson said: True. They could try and trade him as well. I think he’s played for almost every team in the league. Reaves gets around more than the hooker on a Friday night… Steve Dangle has already discussed what a buyout would look like - about 450K cap hit for a bunch of years. The whole panel was in agreement that they should do it. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alflives Posted November 10, 2023 Share Posted November 10, 2023 1 hour ago, Rekker said: But, but, they are Cup favourites didn't you hear? Leafs v Oilers Cup Final is what Alf’s old cracked empties were chiming. Alf’s made lots of new empties since then though. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trebreh Posted November 10, 2023 Share Posted November 10, 2023 Klingberg is bummed we didn't sign him two summers ago. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Lock Posted November 10, 2023 Share Posted November 10, 2023 (edited) 4 hours ago, Mando27 said: I don't get how Toronto saw what happened with Calgary and decided that Trevliving was a good idea. To be fair, Trevelling looked like a good GM up until the beginning of last season. It just looks bad now because of the events that have transpired after the Tkachuk trade; however, even the Tkachuk trade looked genius at the time given the circumstances. Edited November 10, 2023 by The Lock 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sharpshooter Posted November 10, 2023 Share Posted November 10, 2023 4 hours ago, PhillipBlunt said: Leafs season outlook All time great gifs. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johngould21 Posted November 10, 2023 Share Posted November 10, 2023 (edited) Prior to the Canucks game, two of David Ambers guests said an Alberta team is going to make the playoffs. Doubt Quinn Hughes will get 100 points. I hope they keep that tape. poops wrong thread, please move to Around the NHL. Edited November 10, 2023 by Johngould21 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alflives Posted November 10, 2023 Share Posted November 10, 2023 5 minutes ago, Johngould21 said: Prior to the Canucks game, two of David Ambers guests said an Alberta team is going to make the playoffs. Doubt Quinn Hughes will get 100 points. I hope they keep that tape. poops wrong thread, please move to Around the NHL. Eastern media are jealous of our climate. They will always hate us because they freeze in winter while we grow flowers. They are loser scrub buds. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Duke Posted November 10, 2023 Share Posted November 10, 2023 I didn’t realize Dumba still landed 3.9 mil this offseason. You sure aren’t building the right side of your D through FA. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aGENT Posted November 10, 2023 Share Posted November 10, 2023 3 hours ago, Trebreh said: Klingberg is bummed we didn't sign him two summers ago. I can't believe how many fans wanted us to!! 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EB43 Posted November 10, 2023 Share Posted November 10, 2023 (edited) I wish they had signed Kingturd long term Edited November 10, 2023 by EB43 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RWJC Posted November 10, 2023 Author Share Posted November 10, 2023 Just now, EB43 said: I wish they had signed Kingturd long term EDM will do that this offseason 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EB43 Posted November 10, 2023 Share Posted November 10, 2023 Just now, RWJC said: EDM will do that this offseason They miss Barrie/need a partner for Bouchard. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bolt Posted November 10, 2023 Share Posted November 10, 2023 (edited) They could have just not signed him and save the cap room to trade for a real defenseman. Good thing they hired Jim 2.0 Edited November 10, 2023 by bolt Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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