[PGT] Canucks @ Senators

[Sergiomomesso]

1 hour ago, ROBsolete said:

Are they still using leaded gas in Alberta? 

Just using asbestos in their wood stoves for heat 

[Ghostsof1915]

Fun fact. General Aviation Fuel (AVGas) is Leaded. They have been trying to get Unleaded aviation fuel for years because they know the health risks burning leaded gasoline.

Only now are they finding substitutes that don't cause long term issues with aero engines (Not Jet engines), That's what cool about Diamond Aviation. They are using converted Mercdes Benz diesels to run on jet fuel. (Aka Austro Engines)

 

 

[phil.adelic]

it's so much fun to watch this team..

 

 

ferraro said something like if you can't bring your a game you have to have a plan b.. this was the plan b (or even c) canucks and they still managed to get 5 goals with just 16 sog..

 

 

[PhillipBlunt]

43 minutes ago, WHL rocks said:

Do I like anything?

You might have me confused with someone else..

 

I didn't like him in his first game. I thought Shorty carried the weight. 

Shorty did. I thought Tomlinson was better. 

[John.Tallhouse]

 

[AnthonyG]

3 hours ago, Gawdzukes said:

 

Thomas was great but their entire team also played insane team defence. Schnieder could have given them that one win in Boston had he started. Luongo shite the bed so we'll never know.

 

Ugly numbers lol

if this team coulda sealed it in game 3 with 8PP attempts, we coulda won with Luongo in 5 games. We gave up 2 shorties on 8 PP attempts..... and they scored I think 2-3 goals on the PP? it was ugly.... 

[Captkirk888]

2 hours ago, tas said:

fans complaining about wins from a team that is performing exquisitely after a decade of outright futility ...

 

give your heads a shake. 

What I see more is not complaints about wins but rather that we have won some we shouldn’t have won. I am getting tired of this ‘get ready for the letdown’ narrative. Of course we will lose some due to not playing our best AND we lose some that we should have won.

Due to the last decade of futility (with a couple of exceptions), I think a lot of posters just expect that the inevitable crash will come.

I prefer to enjoy the success and not worry about that. Like the players and coach are always stating ‘one game at a time’.

GCG!

[Captkirk888]

2 hours ago, Ghostsof1915 said:

Stupid question. It's a team effort.

Exactly, none of our stars would be as successful this year without the whole team effort we have seen so far.

[Johngould21]

2 hours ago, ROBsolete said:

Are they still using leaded gas in Alberta? 

Maybe purple gas though!

[WHL rocks]

20 minutes ago, PhillipBlunt said:

Shorty did. I thought Tomlinson was better. 

Yes I thought so too.

 

Like I said he may well get better as time goes on and hopefully does.

 

He's going to have to put in a lot of work to learn Canucks' past and present and not just come on and wing it with his knowledge of the league.

 

There a lot of details and minor stats and tidbits the color guy usually brings up and I found Ray didn't have anything to offer in that regard. 

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3 hours ago, CanucksJay said:

For me it was more about seeing some of the bad habits resurface again. A lot of turnovers in the neutral zone where a better team could jump and capitalize. It wasn't good puck management. They got away with it last night but if you play that way against a good team, you'll lose more often than not. 

The puck was also super bouncy. Not sure if that was the reason the play looked so scrambly. 

We looked fired up to start the game. I think when we scored 2 quick ones, we thought maybe we'd be in for an easy night and started to play too loose. We then woke up and tightened it up in the 3rd again.  Maybe we're a good enough team now to have those lapses and recover. Im a firm believer though that our systems and puck management should so be engrained that we should never play like that. Even if we don't have our legs, don't make low percentage ill advised passes. 

That being said, if they come out hard against the Leafs and have a good smart game, this is a non issue. 

My only qualm is lately we've seen the canucks winning while not playing their best and usually that means a let down game is coming. 

No doubt if we played like we did yesterday against Vegas or another top team, they'd run over us. My hope is that the guys come in focused for those games and we see a much cleaner game. 

The puck was bouncing all over on both teams.

 

And "the bad habits" used to end up in losses...we're winning. So not quite the same.

 

When we do grab 2 points, at the end of the season when they add them up no one cares if they were pretty or not.

 

I'm sick of the "they'd run over us" crap. Big bad Vegas stuff. In the last 5 times we've played them we're up 3-2 on them.  Vegas has lost their last 2 games. They're not invincible.

 

We've played some good teams and....a close game (loss) to Tampa. Top team. They didn't "run over us". Stars..."top team", we beat them. 

 

Some of the teams that were touted as "top teams"? Beat them and are part of the reason they're currently not.

 

Games aren't always "clean" and perfect. But the ones you can grind out count just as much as the others.

 

This just sounds like many of our fans who want to armchair coach and are waiting for the shoe to drop. That's your deal, not ours. I feel some don't give credit where it's due with this team...it's never good enough. Now they're getting results but they're not "clean" enough. Seriously?

 

You fix mistakes by working through them (as the team is), not by being scared of making them again. They're learning how to adjust even when they let down a bit. All teams do at times.

[higgyfan]

2 hours ago, WHL rocks said:

Ray Ferraro doing color for Canucks game vs OTT was something a lot of people were looking forward to.

 

I don't think he impressed much. At least for me he wasn't all that great. 

 

Maybe he'll get better as time goes but he is more a national guy where he knows a bit about all the teams as opposed to a lot about one team..

 

Shorty pulled the weight and helped Ray out a lot. And imo Ray wasn't that great. 

 

Well, it was his first attempt.  He will improve with time.  He's got a lot of hockey knowledge, so

that should help.

[PhillipBlunt]

7 minutes ago, WHL rocks said:

Yes I thought so too.

 

Like I said he may well get better as time goes on and hopefully does.

 

He's going to have to put in a lot of work to learn Canucks' past and present and not just come on and wing it with his knowledge of the league.

 

There a lot of details and minor stats and tidbits the color guy usually brings up and I found Ray didn't have anything to offer in that regard. 

True. Can’t just jump into the role. 

[JayDangles]

9 hours ago, stawns said:

Well, it's been two games of being significantly outplayed, yet still pulling out a win and that's usually the signal that you're getting a bit complacent in a winning streak and it's end is near.  I just hope they've got one more in them on Saturday.  But, they can't play against Mathews the way they did against the Oilers and Sens.

I completely disagree with your assessment that the Canucks were "significantly outplayed" by Oilers and sens.

The Oilers came out swinging in the first 10 minutes, but they really didn't threaten at all in the 2nd and 3rd. Vancouver was definitely not outplayed in that game. Shot clock doesn't tell a whole story. Despite the Oilers record, they still have a ton of talent and canucks managed that very well.

Against Ottawa canucks came out firing and to Ottawa's credit they rallied. They didn't let up. Vancouver kept on a steady pace and never seemed out of it. Ottawa had more stints of sustained pressure for sure, but that's hockey.

Rarely is a team completely dominant for an entire 60 minutes. Momentum changes. The sign of a good team is to stay the course and find a way to win.

 

The team knows they can do better, but they also seem like they know when to turn it up. They will be fired up and ready for tomorrow.

Edited November 11, 2023 by JayDangles

[Gawdzukes]

6 minutes ago, higgyfan said:

 

Well, it was his first attempt.  He will improve with time.  He's got a lot of hockey knowledge, so

that should help.

 

Yeah I'm definitely willing to give him some rope. One of the few talking heads out there that played the game in the trenches and was great at it. He's a little snarly, like he played, but I have a lot of respect for his knowledge and patronage to the game. 

[-dlc-]

I really preferred Ferraro over Tomlinson. I found Tomlinson very flat and monotone.

 

Ray is a bit livelier and interacted with Shorty a bit more without the awkward dead air space.

 

His energy was better and made for a more interesting broadcast. Not that we need that...I mean, the game is the focus. But it adds to it if you can have someone show a bit of enthusiasm.

[Ghostsof1915]

My 2 cents (or just a nickle?). Toronto does not have the type of forecheck and backcheck that Ottawa has. The only way I can see Vancouver losing is if they revert to old habits. And try and play a track meet and try matching offense with offense. That will result in a loss. If Vancouver keeps Toronto to the outside. Keeps cutting off passes, and has aggressive puck pursuit. They should pull out a win.

Edited November 11, 2023 by Ghostsof1915

[bishopshodan]

38 minutes ago, WHL rocks said:

Yes I thought so too.

 

Like I said he may well get better as time goes on and hopefully does.

 

He's going to have to put in a lot of work to learn Canucks' past and present and not just come on and wing it with his knowledge of the league.

 

There a lot of details and minor stats and tidbits the color guy usually brings up and I found Ray didn't have anything to offer in that regard. 

I'm kinda glad I listened to the radio feed.

 

I know Ray knows a lot but he just rubs me the wrong way. 

[Barn Burner]

30 minutes ago, JayDangles said:

I completely disagree with your assessment that the Canucks were "significantly outplayed" by Oilers and sens.

The Oilers came out swinging in the first 10 minutes, but they really didn't threaten at all in the 2nd and 3rd. Vancouver was definitely not outplayed in that game. Shot clock doesn't tell a whole story. Despite the Oilers record, they still have a ton of talent and canucks managed that very well.

Against Ottawa canucks came out firing and to Ottawa's credit they rallied. They didn't let up. Vancouver kept on a steady pace and never seemed out of it. Ottawa had more stints of sustained pressure for sure, but that's hockey.

Rarely is a team completely dominant for an entire 60 minutes. Momentum changes. The sign of a good team is to stay the course and find a way to win.

 

The team knows they can do better, but they also seem like they know when to turn it up. They will be fired up and ready for tomorrow.

And that's what they did. After Ottawa's sustained pressure and tying the game, JT scores the 3-2, winning goal and we won the turd! 

[Gawdzukes]

1 hour ago, Sergiomomesso said:

Just using asbestos in their wood stoves for heat 

 

And ivermectin instead of cream for their coffee. It's like ketchup for Cheech out there. That sh!t is good on everything.

 

Hmmm yum.

Edited November 11, 2023 by Gawdzukes

[NoCupSyndrome]

31 minutes ago, JayDangles said:

I completely disagree with your assessment that the Canucks were "significantly outplayed" by Oilers and sens.

The Oilers came out swinging in the first 10 minutes, but they really didn't threaten at all in the 2nd and 3rd. Vancouver was definitely not outplayed in that game. Shot clock doesn't tell a whole story. Despite the Oilers record, they still have a ton of talent and canucks managed that very well.

Against Ottawa canucks came out firing and to Ottawa's credit they rallied. They didn't let up. Vancouver kept on a steady pace and never seemed out of it. Ottawa had more stints of sustained pressure for sure, but that's hockey.

Rarely is a team completely dominant for an entire 60 minutes. Momentum changes. The sign of a good team is to stay the course and find a way to win.

 

The team knows they can do better, but they also seem like they know when to turn it up. They will be fired up and ready for tomorrow.

 

Agree, how many times have we seen that in the past few years where good teams have played average but stuck to their system before overpowering the Canucks.

 

Good value wins this year for the Canucks unlike past years. Always areas to improve on but this team is now playing like a team. Great to see.

 

[-dlc-]

10 minutes ago, bishopshodan said:

I'm kinda glad I listened to the radio feed.

 

I know Ray knows a lot but he just rubs me the wrong way. 

I used to find him TOO hyper and fast talking....but I really enjoyed the job he did last game. Was toned down just enough.

[-dlc-]

 

[-dlc-]

I also like hearing that Miller, Boeser and PDG sit down together and critique their own play to try and get better. 

 

This team is really taking charge of their destiny and changing the narrative.

[Steamer4GM]

Hard for anyone to measure up to the great chemistry Cheech had with Shorty working together so long and the near perfect balance of comic relief and lived NHL experience that made up much of Garrett's commentary

 

Tomlinson, for me, was a total dud and I'm counting the days until his tenure is done

 

I'm a big fan of Ferraro so am clearly biased. Always appreciated the insights he brought to international competition and the various games he'd show up on throughout the seasons. He has tons of on ice AND broadcast experience and has known Shorthouse for years so their off camera chemistry combined with their pro experience will only serve them well over time.

 

Can't wait until their doing the majority of our games together all season long.