Snoop Hogg Posted November 22, 2023 Share Posted November 22, 2023 To solve their goaltending woes, they’ll hire Grant Fuhr to be the goaltending coach. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Heffy Posted November 22, 2023 Share Posted November 22, 2023 12 hours ago, Snoop Hogg said: To solve their goaltending woes, they’ll hire Grant Fuhr to be the goaltending coach. And Khabibulin to drive the team bus. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4petesake Posted November 22, 2023 Share Posted November 22, 2023 Love watching Flames fans trolling the Oilers. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JayDangles Posted November 22, 2023 Share Posted November 22, 2023 17 hours ago, Alflives said: Is McBaby Whiner’s mother going to be the new GM? And his dad POHO? And his dog team mascot? And his bird team logo? And his silver fish team bug? I heard that McWhiner is actually going to strap on the pads and try goalie for the rest of the season and Crysaitle is moving to defense. They are so in love with themselves they want to do it all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nucker67 Posted November 22, 2023 Share Posted November 22, 2023 I'd love to know what's really been said behind closed doors. I can see McDavid going straight to Holland's office and demanding he make improvements, or else! Probably throwing his goalies and D under the bus in the process. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Heffy Posted November 22, 2023 Share Posted November 22, 2023 2 minutes ago, Nucker67 said: I'd love to know what's really been said behind closed doors. I can see McDavid going straight to Holland's office and demanding he make improvements, or else! Probably throwing his goalies and D under the bus in the process. Probably calls Jackson into his own office. Messier 2.0. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kragar Posted November 23, 2023 Share Posted November 23, 2023 Is there anyone on that team that can play defense? Yet another awful Oilers game to enjoy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LesPaul Posted November 23, 2023 Share Posted November 23, 2023 25 minutes ago, Kragar said: Is there anyone on that team that can play defense? Yet another awful Oilers game to enjoy. No, they're brutal Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mando27 Posted November 23, 2023 Share Posted November 23, 2023 The goaltending isn't even the biggest issue with them, the top players can't defend at all. Look at this play, McCryDrai are both just standing around. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4petesake Posted November 23, 2023 Share Posted November 23, 2023 Maybe Katz should pull a Harold Ballard and can Holland and Newguy and bring a surprise coach back. Their fans would find it more entertaining than watching an Oiler game. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olli Juolevi Posted November 23, 2023 Share Posted November 23, 2023 3 hours ago, Mando27 said: The goaltending isn't even the biggest issue with them, the top players can't defend at all. Look at this play, McCryDrai are both just standing around. Those two and Bouchard had another awful goal against highlight like this the game before too. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Elias Pettersson Posted November 23, 2023 Share Posted November 23, 2023 1 hour ago, Miss Korea said: To NY Rangers: Connor McDavid Evan Bouchard To Edmonton: Adam Fox Alexis Lafreniere Vincent Trochek 2024 1st round pick Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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gizmo2337 Posted November 23, 2023 Share Posted November 23, 2023 They must be cursed or something. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miss Korea Posted November 23, 2023 Share Posted November 23, 2023 7 hours ago, Elias Pettersson said: To NY Rangers: Connor McDavid Evan Bouchard To Edmonton: Adam Fox Alexis Lafreniere Vincent Trochek 2024 1st round pick Adam Fox will live the rest of his life in Manhattan. I thought that was made clear when he left Alberta the last time. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JayDangles Posted November 23, 2023 Share Posted November 23, 2023 19 hours ago, Nucker67 said: I'd love to know what's really been said behind closed doors. I can see McDavid going straight to Holland's office and demanding he make improvements, or else! Probably throwing his goalies and D under the bus in the process. Pretty hard to blame his lack of scoring on goaltending though. If he was producing like last year and they were losing games 7-6 that would be different, but he isn't in a position to be preaching and passing the blame. Could this spell the beginning of the end for McDavid in Edmonton? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miss Korea Posted November 23, 2023 Share Posted November 23, 2023 @Elias Pettersson The Montreal version of our classic proposal: Halak, Ryder and a 2nd 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miss Korea Posted November 23, 2023 Share Posted November 23, 2023 1 hour ago, JayDangles said: Pretty hard to blame his lack of scoring on goaltending though. If he was producing like last year and they were losing games 7-6 that would be different, but he isn't in a position to be preaching and passing the blame. Could this spell the beginning of the end for McDavid in Edmonton? It's just a rough mix of things. 1) I think McDavid is injured. There are clips of him wincing and favouring his chest/collarbone. The Oilers are already in desperation mode and it wouldn't be surprising to hear that multiple players are trying to fight through injuries to help the team. 2) Everyone has taken a step back. Skinner is having a massive sophomore slump. His numbers are way down from last year. But the defending in general is also way down. Bouchard can't defend. Draisaitl can't defend. Nurse can't defend either. Regression across the board, including that vaunted powerplay of theirs. 3) The first period woes. We saw it in our games against them. They look like hot garbage coming out the gates. 4-0 after 20 minutes. Even a bad team shouldn't be giving up 4 goals in the 1st as often as EDM does. 4) Everyone is now playing on edge in the worst way. These guys are gripping their sticks like Darth Vader - with crushing force. There are times when the Oilers are just pouring it on offensively and look good doing it, but they can't score because the pucks just aren't going in. They are generating a lot of high-danger scoring chances but my guess is the problem is mental. It's like game 7 overtime but on a permanent basis. That's too much adrenaline. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Heffy Posted November 23, 2023 Share Posted November 23, 2023 3 hours ago, Miss Korea said: Adam Fox will live the rest of his life in Manhattan. I thought that was made clear when he left Alberta the last time. Didn't leave, didn't even report and I don't blame him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnthonyG Posted November 23, 2023 Share Posted November 23, 2023 4 hours ago, Miss Korea said: It's just a rough mix of things. 1) I think McDavid is injured. There are clips of him wincing and favouring his chest/collarbone. The Oilers are already in desperation mode and it wouldn't be surprising to hear that multiple players are trying to fight through injuries to help the team. 2) Everyone has taken a step back. Skinner is having a massive sophomore slump. His numbers are way down from last year. But the defending in general is also way down. Bouchard can't defend. Draisaitl can't defend. Nurse can't defend either. Regression across the board, including that vaunted powerplay of theirs. 3) The first period woes. We saw it in our games against them. They look like hot garbage coming out the gates. 4-0 after 20 minutes. Even a bad team shouldn't be giving up 4 goals in the 1st as often as EDM does. 4) Everyone is now playing on edge in the worst way. These guys are gripping their sticks like Darth Vader - with crushing force. There are times when the Oilers are just pouring it on offensively and look good doing it, but they can't score because the pucks just aren't going in. They are generating a lot of high-danger scoring chances but my guess is the problem is mental. It's like game 7 overtime but on a permanent basis. That's too much adrenaline. 1) I think McDavid is trying to find his own pulse. The guy has no heart, that shit aint beating at all. Never been much of a back checker, just gives lip service to the camera when shit doesnt go his way. No extra effort. 2) McWhiner and Crysaddle never took a step forward. Their 2way game is still much the same. Just swinging sticks instead of getting into position or catching up and taking the man/tying the guy up. 3) if you dont try to play in your own end, you’re going to give up lots of goals. 4) sad that its only noticeable in one end of the ice where they pour it on. Maybe they should try water the grass in the dzone and seeing if it grows? 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miss Korea Posted November 23, 2023 Share Posted November 23, 2023 24 minutes ago, AnthonyG said: 1) I think McDavid is trying to find his own pulse. The guy has no heart, that shit aint beating at all. Never been much of a back checker, just gives lip service to the camera when shit doesnt go his way. No extra effort. 2) McWhiner and Crysaddle never took a step forward. Their 2way game is still much the same. Just swinging sticks instead of getting into position or catching up and taking the man/tying the guy up. 3) if you dont try to play in your own end, you’re going to give up lots of goals. 4) sad that its only noticeable in one end of the ice where they pour it on. Maybe they should try water the grass in the dzone and seeing if it grows? WTF???? What a meaningless response. All your points are just that they suck and aren't trying. McDavid has no heart... they are just lazy whiners, they're not trying, they don't backcheck... There's way more to it than that. There is little explanation for why everything that worked in the past is suddenly failing catastrophically now. They have won THREE playoffs series in the past two seasons. By all accounts they are the same team as they were last year, but performing infinitely worse. If they were the same (even as you suggested) then it doesn't explain what's happened here. Why has their powerplay plummeted? They have gone from 32.4% conversion last year to 21.9% this year. That has nothing to do with anything you've mentioned. Asking other folks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnthonyG Posted November 24, 2023 Share Posted November 24, 2023 (edited) 8 minutes ago, Miss Korea said: WTF???? What a meaningless response. All your points are just that they suck and aren't trying. McDavid has no heart... they are just lazy whiners, they're not trying, they don't backcheck... There's way more to it than that. There is little explanation for why everything that worked in the past is suddenly failing catastrophically now. They have won THREE playoffs series in the past two seasons. By all accounts they are the same team as they were last year, but performing infinitely worse. If they were the same (even as you suggested) then it doesn't explain what's happened here. Why has their powerplay plummeted? They have gone from 32.4% conversion last year to 21.9% this year. That has nothing to do with anything you've mentioned. Asking other folks. Im calling out their leadership. There is zero accountability and zero display of how to play the right way. They put no fucking effort in on the defensive side they got by on powerplays largely and poor goaltending from Markstrom. The moment the powerplays disappeared, so did the oilers hopes. Its no secret that McDavid had nearly half his points come on the PP last year (71) without the PP the struggle big time Edited November 24, 2023 by AnthonyG Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miss Korea Posted November 24, 2023 Share Posted November 24, 2023 3 minutes ago, AnthonyG said: Im calling out their leadership. There is zero accountability and zero display of how to play the right way. They put no fucking effort in on the defensive side they got by on powerplays largely and poor goaltending from Markstrom. The moment the powerplays disappeared, so did the oilers hopes. Its no secret that McDavid had nearly half his points come on the PP last year (71) without the PP the struggle big time Again. Nothing you're saying explains the major drop-off this year. The Oilers were actually better at powerplays in the 2023 postseason, where they skyrocketed to 46.2%. I also don't want to hear crap about McDavid being a power play specialist. The current Canuck stars are power play specialists. Nearly half of the points from all our big guys (Hughes, Pettersson, Miller, Boeser) have come from the powerplay. There is absolutely nothing wrong with having a strong powerplay so I'm simply trying to understand why the Oilers powerplay has suddenly fallen back down to earth. You have not given a single substantive explanation as to why. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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