Bob Long Posted November 13, 2023 Share Posted November 13, 2023 No, he's really useful where he is. I would like to see Petey get a more physical winger but I'd rather move Kuzy down if we can trade for someone. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hammertime Posted November 13, 2023 Share Posted November 13, 2023 7 minutes ago, JeremyCuddles said: The problem with all these graphs and spreadsheets is they don't take into account the fact our top 6 is playing the harder matchups. Especially the Miller line. There are numerous analytics that suggest they're not playing great. But we all can see they are our best line. Hell, the War chief posted the War chart for PDG and Garland. But lets not forget that PDG plays with Miller, who routinely matches up against McDavid, Robertson, and Panarin when he was in town. We have a 2nd line tweener playing against other team's 4th lines. It's gonna make him look good in the analytics. I think that's entirely the point. our 3rd line is a knee on the throat right now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gwarrior Posted November 13, 2023 Share Posted November 13, 2023 I'm not hating what I've seen from Garland the last few games. If he keeps showing this, 1 of 2 things is gonna happen, he's going to jack up his trade value, or he's going to force his way into a top 6 spot, and push someone else out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DANJR Posted November 14, 2023 Share Posted November 14, 2023 Did you mean move out, I completely agree. I would rathe have Tyler Motte from a few years ago. Garland is far to much a perimeter player and just doesn't get enough to danger areas. Not worth half his price tag. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stawns Posted November 14, 2023 Share Posted November 14, 2023 52 minutes ago, tas said: I'm not a garland fan on the whole but he has definitely played better so far this year and I love that @stawns's own boy served him his crow last night. I've heard it's not so bad if prepared well, stawnsy, what say ye? Served crow? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tas Posted November 14, 2023 Share Posted November 14, 2023 28 minutes ago, stawns said: Served crow? I'm just joshin' ya. you predicted a performance in Montreal similar to the Toronto one, and figured that was the teams true level. I promise I'm not trying to start anything, I like that we're getting along. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post The Duke Posted November 14, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted November 14, 2023 Tocchet gave Garland a shift with Miller and it produced a goal - so it can always happen. But I like Garland as the driver on that 3rd line. With him there with a decent shooter in Suter, plus Hoglander and Lafferty on the 4th line it really lets us roll 4 and attack in waves. 1 1 1 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stawns Posted November 14, 2023 Share Posted November 14, 2023 31 minutes ago, tas said: I'm just joshin' ya. you predicted a performance in Montreal similar to the Toronto one, and figured that was the teams true level. I promise I'm not trying to start anything, I like that we're getting along. Gotcha. It was certainly just as likely an outcome, coming off the end of an extended winning streak. I liked their energy last night and they generated some good 5v5 chances. They've got another strong of games against teams they should be beating, with the AVs being the best team of the bunch 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NucksIn50 Posted November 14, 2023 Share Posted November 14, 2023 12 minutes ago, stawns said: Gotcha. It was certainly just as likely an outcome, coming off the end of an extended winning streak. I liked their energy last night and they generated some good 5v5 chances. They've got another strong of games against teams they should be beating, with the AVs being the best team of the bunch I’m not discounting Avs but it’s not like there lighting up the league… few games ago it was wait til we play Dallas and see where we’re at…. We beat them 2-0 and dominated at times in all areas. Our true test will be LA Kings, that is a team that I can say is strong and a big measuring stick to see where our club is at. It will be a fun 67 games on our quest to the playoffs, so I’m just going to enjoy this team, the players, our Stanley Cup Coaching Staff. Things are aligning finally and as a fan base we deserve to watch this type of team/hockey period. Eastern Media can kiss our asses. We are Vancouvers team. Go Canucks! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stawns Posted November 14, 2023 Share Posted November 14, 2023 36 minutes ago, NucksIn50 said: I’m not discounting Avs but it’s not like there lighting up the league… few games ago it was wait til we play Dallas and see where we’re at…. We beat them 2-0 and dominated at times in all areas. Our true test will be LA Kings, that is a team that I can say is strong and a big measuring stick to see where our club is at. It will be a fun 67 games on our quest to the playoffs, so I’m just going to enjoy this team, the players, our Stanley Cup Coaching Staff. Things are aligning finally and as a fan base we deserve to watch this type of team/hockey period. Eastern Media can kiss our asses. We are Vancouvers team. Go Canucks! Agreed, I meant in the next 5 game set Isles Calgary Seattle SJ Avs I think expecting at least 7 points there, at least, is reasonable. They need to bank points at every opportunity and this is a good set to do that in. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hairy Kneel Posted November 14, 2023 Share Posted November 14, 2023 Petie needs a jump start. I think a few shifts with Garland might help. Garland can retrieve pucks and hold the puck looking for passes. He's not big but he battles. That could help Petie. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Fig Posted November 14, 2023 Share Posted November 14, 2023 The bottom-six has been really strong. Change nothing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tusk Posted November 14, 2023 Share Posted November 14, 2023 21 minutes ago, Jack Fig said: The bottom-six has been really strong. Change nothing. I absolutely agree. Change nothing then after the trade deadline deals done, move Garlund up to Brock and JT. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BPA Posted November 14, 2023 Share Posted November 14, 2023 3 hours ago, Bob Long said: No, he's really useful where he is. I would like to see Petey get a more physical winger but I'd rather move Kuzy down if we can trade for someone. Maybe swap wingers? Joshua EP Mik PDG Miller Boeser Kuz Suter Garland Laff Blu Hogz Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Fig Posted November 14, 2023 Share Posted November 14, 2023 29 minutes ago, Tusk said: I absolutely agree. Change nothing then after the trade deadline deals done, move Garlund up to Brock and JT. What's wrong with Phil on that wing? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J-23 Posted November 14, 2023 Share Posted November 14, 2023 3 hours ago, Miss Korea said: I have always been a believer in Conor Garland. He is a crafty playmaker with a very unique playing style. Watch him closely and he makes excellent plays on both sides of the ice. He puts very good passes into the slot - although his teammates haven't converted many chances yet, they are expected to come. I don't know if he's a good fit on this team per se, but I think he should absolutely be bumped up to the line with Miller. Do I think Tocchet is going to demote Di Giuseppe, his favourite player? I hope he does. Di Giuseppe is a hard-working defensive winger and the hustle he brings is a better fit on the third line. I hate advanced stats. Anyone watching the games knows why Giuseppe is on that Miller line. 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iceman1964 Posted November 14, 2023 Share Posted November 14, 2023 If Garland was 6-6'2 and 200 pounds then yes but no, like Alf said, Garland isn't a bad player, he just doesn't fit well with us, wish it weren't so but it is... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Fig Posted November 14, 2023 Share Posted November 14, 2023 9 minutes ago, J-23 said: I hate advanced stats. Anyone watching the games knows why Giuseppe is on that Miller line. You're on this, J-dog. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iceman1964 Posted November 14, 2023 Share Posted November 14, 2023 Im still laughing at the post that said Kuz and Mik aren't top 6 and nothing without Petey, just when you think you saw it all... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NucksIn50 Posted November 14, 2023 Share Posted November 14, 2023 1 hour ago, stawns said: Agreed, I meant in the next 5 game set Isles Calgary Seattle SJ Avs I think expecting at least 7 points there, at least, is reasonable. They need to bank points at every opportunity and this is a good set to do that in. Yeah for sure… the game that really scares me is the SJ rematch lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tusk Posted November 14, 2023 Share Posted November 14, 2023 18 minutes ago, Jack Fig said: What's wrong with Phil on that wing? nothing is wrong but the only thing right is PDG's size. Imagine if we could trade Edmonton for a unprotected first in exchange for a big, top line forward PDG and a Beulivier and some cap space? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rounoush Posted November 14, 2023 Share Posted November 14, 2023 4 hours ago, Falcons said: Totally disagree He is worth keeping We have like two other short guys we can move instead I like Garland a lot but not at the price he is at. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Fig Posted November 14, 2023 Share Posted November 14, 2023 4 minutes ago, Tusk said: nothing is wrong but the only thing right is PDG's size. Imagine if we could trade Edmonton for a unprotected first in exchange for a big, top line forward PDG and a Beulivier and some cap space? Phil is 6'0" - 195 ... and average-size guy at best. The team is playing great, near the top of the league ... and you're hot to make some fantastical trade. Let things play out ... by trade deadline time, the roadmap will be a lot clearer as to what needs to happen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tusk Posted November 14, 2023 Share Posted November 14, 2023 3 minutes ago, Rounoush said: I like Garland a lot but not at the price he is at. the price is why we are stuck with him so why play him on the bottom 6. I mean he can play there till something opens up in the top. Leaves room for deals at deadline. PDG needs to get some points and gain some value. Or at least get into more fights than Cole and Joshua. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elias Pettersson Posted November 14, 2023 Share Posted November 14, 2023 4 hours ago, Falcons said: Garland scored 22 goals in 68 games According to my math 22 goals is ALOT less than 39 goals... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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