higgyfan Posted November 16, 2023 Share Posted November 16, 2023 32 minutes ago, stawns said: Honestly, I think they'll pivot to a re-tool in 3 years and move out alot of the current core. I'm not sure who you consider the core, but I would guess Pete and Quinn will get 8yr contracts. Strong possibility Hronek gets an 8yr contract. Depending on current goalie prospects Demko might get a shorter term or be traded. Boeser gets a short term contract and Kuzy is traded. Starting in 2027 Miller's NMC adds a 15 team no trade list. Pretty much everyone else is walking, traded or signs a short term contract. You are correct in your assessment, but I think the retool will be a natural progression over the next 3yrs. 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EdgarM Posted November 16, 2023 Share Posted November 16, 2023 5 hours ago, Bob Long said: Joshua-Bluegar-Garland dominated their shifts. I don't know what Tocc is doing with Joshua, but man he's getting the most of that guy. Garly is a little badger. I noticed in the preseason how much offense Blueger generates and I also said Garland just needed to find the right line mates. I predict this to be a regular line which will provide much needed secondary offense. Garland/Joshua reminds me of the Ronning/Momesso and Ronning/Linden days. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Long Posted November 16, 2023 Share Posted November 16, 2023 1 minute ago, EdgarM said: I noticed in the preseason how much offense Blueger generates and I also said Garland just needed to find the right line mates. I predict this to be a regular line which will provide much needed secondary offense. Garland/Joshua reminds me of the Ronning/Momesso and Ronning/Linden days. That's a fun comparison. If Garland continues like this he's worth the cap. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pure961089 Posted November 16, 2023 Share Posted November 16, 2023 1 hour ago, Canuck You said: ...but it was nice of him.. Bo's heart still in Vancouver. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeyD Posted November 16, 2023 Share Posted November 16, 2023 1 hour ago, IBatch said: Let's be real. Kesler didn't take less, neither did the Sedins, it was the worst financial crisis we'd had since the great depression. Burrows took less, and then was paid for it. Luongo took a ton, all front loaded. You have to go by cap percentage, and also look at what they'd done until their deals were signed. Edit: As for now, Miller took a lot less cap percentage wise than one Sedin, even though he'd produced more. Let's see what the rest do. People forget that the core back then, didn't allow for a winger for Kesler either. Not a big winger well paid anyways. We spend a lot on the D core as well. Cap percentage. The deals were actually in the supporting casts, but when they were well paid and given full clauses (Hansen). It was a great team for sure, but they were all well paid compared to their peers back then as well. And it did have its faults. It was a little top heavy. We paid close to 40% for four players. Edit: And we traded for Kesler's winger in Booth. And Ballard was added. Both got bought out and it was pretty much exactly the cap savings we accrued from all the clauses. I beg to differ on the Sedins and Kesler. They definitely took sweetened deals for the team. Canucks fans were over the moon at their cap hits and they more than exceeded their price ranges. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IBatch Posted November 16, 2023 Share Posted November 16, 2023 (edited) 3 minutes ago, MikeyD said: I beg to differ on the Sedins and Kesler. They definitely took sweetened deals for the team. Canucks fans were over the moon at their cap hits and they more than exceeded their price ranges. They exceeded their cap ranges yes. But you have to go back and look at what they had achieved to that point MikeyD. Edit: Miller exceeded his cap range big time. Do the cap percentages. Luongo's deals were both massive. Also look at the context back then. It was going to be flat cap for awhile because of 2008-2009. Edited November 16, 2023 by IBatch Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stawns Posted November 16, 2023 Share Posted November 16, 2023 26 minutes ago, higgyfan said: I'm not sure who you consider the core, but I would guess Pete and Quinn will get 8yr contracts. Strong possibility Hronek gets an 8yr contract. Depending on current goalie prospects Demko might get a shorter term or be traded. Boeser gets a short term contract and Kuzy is traded. Starting in 2027 Miller's NMC adds a 15 team no trade list. Pretty much everyone else is walking, traded or signs a short term contract. You are correct in your assessment, but I think the retool will be a natural progression over the next 3yrs. Again, I would t be surprised to see a big turnover in 3ish years Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EdgarM Posted November 16, 2023 Share Posted November 16, 2023 13 minutes ago, stawns said: Again, I would t be surprised to see a big turnover in 3ish years The way these guys are gelling and playing more and more like a team, I see them wanting to stick together to have continued success. Having and wanting a winning culture is contagious. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steamer4GM Posted November 16, 2023 Share Posted November 16, 2023 15 hours ago, Rubik said: Boliviay Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hairy Kneel Posted November 16, 2023 Share Posted November 16, 2023 3 hours ago, PhillipBlunt said: Joshua, Myers, Soucy and Miller are more than enough to manage Boston. Aside from Lucic, who hasn't been playing much, who on Boston is really a threat to Vancouver? And if one of them go down or w.e. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhillipBlunt Posted November 16, 2023 Share Posted November 16, 2023 1 minute ago, Hairy Kneel said: And if one of them go down or w.e. If one of them goes down, so be it. It happens to nearly every team during the season. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hairy Kneel Posted November 16, 2023 Share Posted November 16, 2023 1 minute ago, PhillipBlunt said: If one of them goes down, so be it. It happens to nearly every team during the season. No, the playoffs are a war we need the beef. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhillipBlunt Posted November 16, 2023 Share Posted November 16, 2023 9 minutes ago, Hairy Kneel said: No, the playoffs are a war we need the beef. What does the w.e. mean? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pure961089 Posted November 16, 2023 Share Posted November 16, 2023 2 hours ago, Canuck You said: ...but it was nice of him.. A picture is worth a thousand words Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I.AM.THE.WALRUS Posted November 16, 2023 Share Posted November 16, 2023 14 hours ago, Dankmemes187 said: Dang 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I.AM.THE.WALRUS Posted November 16, 2023 Share Posted November 16, 2023 Are fans returning to Rogers Arena? Man I got to see some games this year this is a hot team Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arsenalian Posted November 16, 2023 Share Posted November 16, 2023 16 hours ago, RookieFan said: Kuzy has such a patented smile, if that's gone that's a harsh reality of playing pro hockey. A reminder to us all on dangers of the game. Losing your teeth like that is bad for health and your appearance and even yet getting noticed by the opposite sex it's going to be a lot harder to attract women with a mouth missing teeth just sayin. Yeah. NHL players have a hard time finding girlfriends/wives. [/s] 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pure961089 Posted November 16, 2023 Share Posted November 16, 2023 (edited) There are people out there that want to die on Benning hill. Yes, I can concede he made some good moves but let's be honest. If Benning were still here we would still have Horvat, Miller would be traded and we wouldn't have Hronek. We would be 0-3 vs the Oilers and be underneath them in the standings. Alvin and JR are the Unsung heros for this season so far. They changed the culture and the standards of this team in less than 2 years. And we're probability half a season behind schedule because of BB. They literally had no choice but to bring Bruce back. Edited November 16, 2023 by Pure961089 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stawns Posted November 16, 2023 Share Posted November 16, 2023 7 minutes ago, arsenalian said: Yeah. NHL players have a hard time finding girlfriends/wives. [/s] Man, that guy has incel written all over him 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sharpshooter Posted November 16, 2023 Share Posted November 16, 2023 17 hours ago, Smashian Kassian said: Hronek picked a great time to get his first goal, that was a Salo-like slapper. Sorokin barely flinched by the time it passed him. And Hughes winner was a laser beam too, he changed the angle beautifully & Sorokin had no chance. Even at 2-0 it felt like this team was still going to win. They battled hard all night. Great game tonight. Al McInnes or Al Iafrate like imo. Saw the replay this early morning. What a bomb! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sharpshooter Posted November 16, 2023 Share Posted November 16, 2023 35 minutes ago, I.AM.THE.WALRUS said: Are fans returning to Rogers Arena? Man I got to see some games this year this is a hot team Lower bowl still seating many ‘fans’. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Aquaman Posted November 17, 2023 Share Posted November 17, 2023 9 hours ago, JayDangles said: Easy now. Sedins reinvented the game in some areas. They scored at will for years. We have a group of good talented players, but it's unlikely we ever see a duo work the puck like the Sedins. Yes the Sedins invented the low cycle of the puck. My favourite Canucks players do sure. But we never had a Hughes. He’s essentially a first line Centre the way he plays :). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hammertime Posted November 17, 2023 Share Posted November 17, 2023 17 hours ago, VegasCanuck said: Loved the trade from the start, was the type of swing for the fences type of trade We've been needing. the only problem is what happens next year we can't pay Hronek more than Huggy. And if Pete's taking 11+ yadayada OEL buyout etc can we remain competitive? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aGENT Posted November 17, 2023 Share Posted November 17, 2023 2 hours ago, stawns said: Depends on how the rest of the season goes. I doubt it. Unless he starts putting up similar numbers, away from Hughes the rest of the way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stawns Posted November 17, 2023 Share Posted November 17, 2023 3 minutes ago, aGENT said: I doubt it. Unless he starts putting up similar numbers, away from Hughes the rest of the way. He might take less than Hughes, but on a 1-2 year deal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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