Popular Post canuck73_3 Posted November 18, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted November 18, 2023 Without the details it’s hard to have any judgement on the situation. But this has happened with Brittany about a decade ago with Lucic where he was just drunk and belligerent but no physical violence. If it's more of the same it’s still not right and he needs some help to cope better. If it’s worse than that he really needs help. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AatuD2 Posted November 18, 2023 Share Posted November 18, 2023 2 hours ago, -dlc- said: And this is a selfish thought....some here suggested we sign this guy. I'm glad now that we didn't (regardless of the who's right/wrong here). Our team needs to move away from a negative dramatic spotlight being shone on them and to just have the focus be on hockey. So a near miss if ever we were considering this. Let Boston deal with this mess and a little adversity for once. I empathize with the family/Luc but I'm also glad it's not our team even if hockey is one big family. A team so highly touted and supported by the league steps down from grace a bit. Stigma IS attached (as much as I hate that) and until that changes, it's not lowly Vancouver being talked about. I think we should let facts come out first before we jump to conclusions. My friend was in a long term relationship with a girl who was the abusive one (verbally and physically). She punched holes in his wall and was yelling at him one night, neighbours called the cops and arrested him automatically. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-dlc- Posted November 18, 2023 Share Posted November 18, 2023 2 minutes ago, AatuD2 said: I think we should let facts come out first before we jump to conclusions. My friend was in a long term relationship with a girl who was the abusive one (verbally and physically). She punched holes in his wall and was yelling at him one night, neighbours called the cops and arrested him automatically. I believe I did that... Quote Sad. There are always two sides to every story. In domestic disputes nothing ever warrants a man putting his hands on a woman. Walk away. Go to the garage and punch a punching bag. And it works the other way too...if she's assaulting him charge her. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miss Korea Posted November 18, 2023 Share Posted November 18, 2023 I think this is the end of his playing career. He already looked like shit on the ice and this isn't going to make a return any easier. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LaBamba Posted November 18, 2023 Share Posted November 18, 2023 Anyone who is like “we need to wait and see” is living in a make believe world. Anytime abuse becomes public, you damn well know it’s serious and it’s real. Lucic is a bully and a wife beating loser. Cuff him boys. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thats a small body Posted November 18, 2023 Share Posted November 18, 2023 1 hour ago, Sophomore Jinx said: And another thing to consider in regard to CTE, and it's potential impact to the emotional and physical health of the athlete, and in particular it's correlation to the NHL "fighters", is that they didn't just start fighting their tough peers once they were in the NHL, they also had many, many fights in junior as well, with blows to the head of in many cases, still developing brains, and when brain injury synapse may likely, and irreversibly have already occurred. I don't know the details of this Looch thing, but if he is guilty I certainly wouldn't condone his behavior, it would be unacceptable and abhorrent, but at the same time I would hope he would get the help he needs, and that the parties involved could find healing and closure also. 398 pim over 183 games in the bchl/ whl. I dont know how many of those minutes are from fights, but i would have to imagine there were at least 30 fights. I probably saw a couple myself when he played for coquitlam 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewbieCanuckFan Posted November 18, 2023 Share Posted November 18, 2023 4 hours ago, hockeyville88 said: This is crazy. I know he is a goon on the ice, but he has never had that reputation off of it. He seems like a great family man and someone who has always been involved in the community. Perhaps it is a sign of poor mental health And being in a bad place right now. Either way, I wish him well and hope he is able to get the help he needs to be well I remember when he had that altercation in the West End, it was framed as another example of the type of people in Vancouver. Now, as Deb said, there's "two sides to the story" but... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vancan Posted November 18, 2023 Share Posted November 18, 2023 8 minutes ago, LaBamba said: Anyone who is like “we need to wait and see” is living in a make believe world. Anytime abuse becomes public, you damn well know it’s serious and it’s real. Lucic is a bully and a wife beating loser. Cuff him boys. Johnny Depp says hi 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LaBamba Posted November 18, 2023 Share Posted November 18, 2023 10 minutes ago, Vancan said: Johnny Depp says hi Ya, I’m totally sure Lucic is just like Johnny Depp. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Hogs and Podz Posted November 18, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted November 18, 2023 3 hours ago, -dlc- said: I'm glad that we're looking at this from all angles, including the one where a guy whose job it was to fight and be tough suffers his own consequences in that. Those blows have an impact. Concussions will manifest themselves in all kinds of ways. I imagine there's no on/off switch and firing yourself up on ice can carry over. One of the reasons I felt empathy and protective regarding my ex was that he'd experienced some trauma and his fight or flight instinct was strong and ignited pretty quickly. Also, I've learned it was "comfortable" for me to live in turmoil. Normal. It's important that all of this stuff is discussed and there's no stigma surrounding it. Looking beyond an incident to identify a root cause and perhaps changing the course of things for the future is important. Blame, shame...all the things that surround these incidents should be removed and the focus should be on fixing things. With that, help is out there and there's really no excuse to explode and unleash on others and pass things along to them. He's not a monster, but he's a guy with all kinds of resources at his disposal so it'll be up to him to use them if necessary. I hope he does. You know Deb... I've read your posts over the years. You often have (understandably, like most here) a super fan focused commentary... But it's post like this one. A person that has been through it on a very personal level... Yet chooses not to live within the victim perspective.... And the courage it takes to see both sides and to follow through with knowing you are worth that change... And again, to have the courage to make that change.... HUGE amount of respect I have for you.... Good for you Deb! Setting a great example for your children as well. Seriously mad respect!!! 4 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Haddy Posted November 18, 2023 Share Posted November 18, 2023 37 minutes ago, AatuD2 said: I think we should let facts come out first before we jump to conclusions. My friend was in a long term relationship with a girl who was the abusive one (verbally and physically). She punched holes in his wall and was yelling at him one night, neighbours called the cops and arrested him automatically. Except the rules are reversed when it's SA involving Virtanen. Then it doesn't matter, even if the courts find him not guilty. Then you have to ignore the facts and virtue signal at every opportunity. It's the Vancouver way. Nice to see so many people supporting Lucic though Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CBH1926 Posted November 18, 2023 Share Posted November 18, 2023 It’s always nice when you appear shirtless in your mug shot. He always struck me as a douche, can’t say that I am surprised. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Kirk Posted November 18, 2023 Share Posted November 18, 2023 Couldn't have happened to a better guy, hopefully next up is Marchand. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nuckin_futz Posted November 19, 2023 Share Posted November 19, 2023 Anyone remember him threatening to murder Dale Weise in a handshake line up? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Heffy Posted November 19, 2023 Share Posted November 19, 2023 (edited) Sad to see people still treating this dirtbag with any respect. Hopefully he ends up in prison where he belongs. Absolute piece of trash on and off the ice. Edited November 19, 2023 by King Heffy 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trebreh Posted November 19, 2023 Share Posted November 19, 2023 roid rage Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coconuts Posted November 19, 2023 Share Posted November 19, 2023 Hopefully he gets the help he needs, hopefully she does too. I didn't care for him as a hockey player but his fighting hundreds of times over the course of his career probably hasn't helped. Being wealthy doesn't excuse people from having their demons. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Long Posted November 19, 2023 Share Posted November 19, 2023 Just now, Coconuts said: Being wealthy doesn't excuse people from having their demons. Probably hides issues longer. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gwarrior Posted November 19, 2023 Share Posted November 19, 2023 I'm just happy he didn't sign here when his last contract was up. This is going to potentially be a PR nightmare if, or when, he comes back. But here, it would become an instant PR shit storm. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coconuts Posted November 19, 2023 Share Posted November 19, 2023 (edited) 12 minutes ago, Bob Long said: Probably hides issues longer. Wouldn't doubt it, fortunately he's got the financial resources to get help and likely plenty of support from friends/teammates around the league, the Boston Bruins, the NHL, and so on A lot of those who perpetrate domestic abuse don't have access to the kind of supports he does, hopefully he makes the most of it I get that this is a Canucks forum but I'm reluctant to demonize him because of his being an ex-Bruin, ex-Flame, ex-whatever, domestic violence is a complicated matter and we don't know the entirety of the story Oftentimes those who abuse have their own demons, trauma is extremely complicated, there's a lot of data out there for example regarding how those who sexually abuse were often sexually abused as children themselves There can be layers to this shit, ripple effects, damaging cycles Hopefully everyone involved gets the help they need, that's the best case scenario Edited November 19, 2023 by Coconuts 1 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeremy Hronek Posted November 19, 2023 Share Posted November 19, 2023 (edited) 12 hours ago, Crimson JH said: Good. I hope Milan Lucic gets jailed for 15-20 years (I know it won't happen but a man can wish!) LOL Edited November 19, 2023 by Jeremy Hronek 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeremy Hronek Posted November 19, 2023 Share Posted November 19, 2023 8 hours ago, canuck73_3 said: Without the details it’s hard to have any judgement on the situation. But this has happened with Brittany about a decade ago with Lucic where he was just drunk and belligerent but no physical violence. If it's more of the same it’s still not right and he needs some help to cope better. If it’s worse than that he really needs help. Brittany is another goof. Memories of her chirping Corey Schneider's girlfriend for no reason whatsoever. That being said, I do sympathize with her (slightly) if she was in fact abused in this case. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeremy Hronek Posted November 19, 2023 Share Posted November 19, 2023 9 hours ago, Rekker said: Oh boy, Heffy gonna have a fun time with this one. He's not the only that is going to have fun with this. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeremy Hronek Posted November 19, 2023 Share Posted November 19, 2023 3 hours ago, gwarrior said: I'm just happy he didn't sign here when his last contract was up. This is going to potentially be a PR nightmare if, or when, he comes back. But here, it would become an instant PR shit storm. If Milan Lucic goes to jail over this, I'm going to mail him pictures of him celebrating the cup in Vancouver to his jail cell. That should cheer him up. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post King Heffy Posted November 19, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted November 19, 2023 57 minutes ago, Jeremy Hronek said: He's not the only that is going to have fun with this. I'm not really having fun with this to be honest, more disappointed with all the excuses for this kind of crime. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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